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It would seem that all these asphalt, machinery, and other heat-producing, heat-trapping, or heat-accentuating objects are artificially warming our environment.
What would be the point of measuring the temperature in upstate NY and saying that is the temp in NYC? The temp is the temp in any given location. Asphalt and concrete make it hotter. That is no surprise.
of course....and retain heat making nights warmer
Here's a map of all the roads in North America....all that pavement is definately making it warmer
It seems you would expect to take all temperature measurements out in the shaded woods. No, you take them from all kinds of environments, including in the concrete cities as well as in the wooded rural areas... and average them.
Why would anyone compare the average temp of 1900 NYC with the average temp of today's concrete and steel NYC? That has nothing to do with global averages.
What are you talking about? It’s constantly being done …. the climate cult are constantly making claims like “it’s the hottest summer in 100 years”. “The temperature has increased 3 degrees in the last 100 years”. What do they base those claims on? Well, of course, temperatures recorded 100 years ago.
And furthermore, because cities are on average 5-7 degrees hotter than rural areas, but only represent 1% of the overall land mass, you don’t measure temps in 10 cities and 10 rural areas and average them out as if they are an equal representation of the average temperature.
The more accurate mathematical method would be to take 99 readings of rural temperatures, and 1 city reading and take that average. Guess what you will find out? You’d see such a minuscule difference, it would be statistically irrelevant. That’s what you’d find. Let me do the math for you ….
Let’s say we have 99 readings of rural areas (99% of the land mass) that average out to 80 degrees. You add 1 city reading of 87 degrees (1% of the land mass). 99x80+87/100=80.07 degrees. Or ….. 7/100 of a degree difference.
By contrast, these fraudsters routinely manipulate the statistics by taking temperature measurements made in 1900 which has very little urban island heat effect, and directly compare them to today’s measurements which has 5-7 degrees of urban island heat effect, and SCREAM GLOBAL WARMING IS HERE!
Lots of times, these statistical fraudsters, knowing there are up and down natural fluctuations in temperatures will pick a year in the past that registered a below average temp for that time of year, and compare it to a more recent year with a higher than average temperature, and present those figures. It’s a total fraud and they know it, but the drooling public only hears that it’s the warmest August in 70 years, or some other nonsense that means nothing.
No it’s not. That’s a ridiculous thing to say, because you’d have to believe that the interstate highway system is capable of gathering and radiating enough heat to warm the entire land mass, the oceans, lakes and streams, and the entire atmospheric temperature too, which would be required for “global warming”? You don’t really believe that, do you?
Sigh, here we go again. Every summer heat wave or winter blizzard brings out all the same tired arguments over climate; humans do, humans don't, this study refutes that one, one has an agenda bias, the other doesn't, blah blah blah. Don't you people ever get tired of flogging the same dead horse? Somehow, I doubt one entrenched position will ever convince the other of anything.
Sigh, here we go again. Every summer heat wave or winter blizzard brings out all the same tired arguments over climate; humans do, humans don't, this study refutes that one, one has an agenda bias, the other doesn't, blah blah blah. Don't you people ever get tired of flogging the same dead horse? Somehow, I doubt one entrenched position will ever convince the other of anything.
Why stop with Global Warming...?
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On and on and on.
Same posters on the side of each argument dependent on their political persuasion.
So no,I guess we people don't get tired of flogging the same dead horse.
No it’s not. That’s a ridiculous thing to say, because you’d have to believe that the interstate highway system is capable of gathering and radiating enough heat to warm the entire land mass, the oceans, lakes and streams, and the entire atmospheric temperature too, which would be required for “global warming”? You don’t really believe that, do you?
of course I do.....add to that buildings, parking lots, heat generated from all kinds of machinery....and all the grass, trees and stuff that keeps it cooler...they bulldozed to build that
...you can't have an urban heat island without it
"Urban heat islands" occur when cities replace natural land cover with dense concentrations of pavement, buildings, and other surfaces that absorb and retain heat."
"An urban heat island occurs when a city experiences much warmer temperatures than nearby rural areas"
The context of your example is the modern day concrete and steel city contributed more heat to the average global temp than the rural tree shaded areas did. So yes, the concrete and steel cities do contribute to the macro global warming trend.
No, that’s not the case AT ALL. The Urban Island Heat Effect of cities has zero effect on global temperatures … NONE. It’s purely a localized effect, confined to its own geographic limits, which is why there is this 5-7 degree difference inside the city, compared to the rural areas just outside and adjacent to the city … for God’s sake, stop it already! You’re drooling all over your keyboard over there.
There is a law you need to become acquainted with … it’s called “the law of holes”. This law says that when you find yourself in a hole, the first action necessary to escape the hole is to stop digging.
No, that’s not the case AT ALL. The Urban Island Heat Effect of cities has zero effect on global temperatures … NONE. It’s purely a localized effect, confined to its own geographic limits, which is why there is this 5-7 degree difference inside the city, compared to the rural areas just outside and adjacent to the city … for God’s sake, stop it already! You’re drooling all over your keyboard over there.
There is a law you need to become acquainted with … it’s called “the law of holes”. This law says that when you find yourself in a hole, the first action necessary to escape the hole is to stop digging.
Where does the heat go when it rises out of the cities? Does it just disappear? Or does it mix with the rest of the air on the planet?
of course I do.....add to that buildings, parking lots, heat generated from all kinds of machinery....and all the grass, trees and stuff that keeps it cooler...they bulldozed to build that
...you can't have an urban heat island without it
"Urban heat islands" occur when cities replace natural land cover with dense concentrations of pavement, buildings, and other surfaces that absorb and retain heat."
"An urban heat island occurs when a city experiences much warmer temperatures than nearby rural areas"
Of course you do … and of course, you apparently don’t understand why the phenomenon is referring to it as an ISLAND EFFECT. Island … as in isolated … as in not connected to anything else. And simply repeating the definition of what the Urban Heat Island Effect is, which I have already explained, because I was the one who introduced the phrase in this conversation, doesn’t change the fact that you don’t really know what it is or what it does, because you keep confirming that fact.
I will say this one more time ….the heat given off from cities, referred to as the Urban Island Heat Effect, raises the ambient temperature inside the city compared to the rural areas outside that city. It’s called an “Island effect” because it’s ISOLATED like being on a freaking island. All that is required to understand this is two brain cells able to shake hands … if the heat from the city doesn’t warm the rural areas surrounding the city, it’s NOT GOING TO WARM THE ENTIRE FREAKING PLANET!!!!!
Nobody can possibly be this dense. So you must be JOKING. Please say you are just kidding, or don’t say anything more.
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