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Old 01-04-2007, 05:12 PM
 
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Second World War

Main article: Ghettos in occupied Europe 1939 - 1944

Ghettos established by the ***** in which Jews were confined, and later shipped to concentration camps.
Ghettos established by the ***** in which Jews were confined, and later shipped to concentration camps.

During World War II, ghettos were established by the ***** to confine Jews into tightly packed areas of the cities of Eastern Europe. Starting in 1939, Adolf Eichmann, head of the Final Solution program, began to systematically move Polish Jews into designated areas of large Polish cities. The first large ghetto at Tuliszkow was established in December 1939 or January 1940, followed by the Łódź Ghetto in April 1940 and the Warsaw Ghetto in October 1940, with many other ghettos established throughout 1940 and 1941. The Ghettos were walled off, and any Jew found leaving them was shot. The Warsaw Ghetto was the largest of these Ghettos, with 380,000 people and the Łódź Ghetto, the second largest, holding about 160,000.

The situation in the ghettos was brutal. In Warszawa, 30% of the population were forced to live in 2.4% of the city's area, a density of 9.2 people per room. In the ghetto of Odrzywol, 700 people lived in an area previously occupied by 5 families, between 12 and 30 to each small room. The Jews were not allowed out of the ghetto, so they had to rely on replenishments supplied by the *****: in Warszawa this was 253 calories per Jew, compared to 669 calories per non-Jewish Pole and 2,613 calories per German. With crowded living conditions, starvation diets, and little sanitation (in the Łódź Ghetto 95% of apartments had no sanitation, piped water or sewers) hundreds of thousands of Jews died of disease and starvation.

In 1942, the ***** began Operation Reinhard, the systematic deportation to extermination camps during the Holocaust. The authorities deported Jews from everywhere in Europe to the ghettos of the East, or directly to the extermination camps -- almost 300,000 people were deported from the Warsaw Ghetto alone to Treblinka over the course of 52 days. In some of the Ghettos the local resistance organizations started Ghetto uprisings, none were successful, and the Jewish populations of the ghettos were almost entirely killed.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:17 PM
 
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Very good points, the answer.

Ghetto is overused, misused and certainly can be construed as racist--against any race, for that matter.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:40 PM
 
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Default on "ghetto"

Theanswer, are you banned from using the word Nazi? I see you don't write it in its full form.

"Ghetto" may be a bad word, but many of those who live there embrace the term instead of rejecting it as pejorative. "Ghetto fabulous", they say.

The word is nowadays so entrenched in culture and common usage that avoiding it would be akin to not using "downtown", "midtown", "uptown".

To me, anyway, ghettos are any kind of same-race-and-social-class neighborhoods where similar people live together, voluntarily or not. Here in New York, the white super rich Upper East Side is to me as much a ghetto as the poor black area north of zip 10021- Harlem.

I'll admit, though, that as interested as I am in racial injustice, segregation and other problems, Theanswer's near-obsession with race in this forum is a bit overwhelming.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:41 PM
 
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The definition of ghetto has changed lately - Nowadays it can also refer to a general run-down area.
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:37 AM
 
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What you quoted theanswer doesn't exactly explain how using the word "ghetto" is racist. What defines a "minority area?" Certainly White areas of the globe qualify as "minority" being as Whites are only around 10% of the world population.

Would the wealthy White suburbs of South Africa be defined as "ghettos?"
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:05 AM
 
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so is it racist against jewish people then? i don't follow your logic as to why it would be racist against blacks or hispanics.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:05 PM
 
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so is it racist against jewish people then? i don't follow your logic as to why it would be racist against blacks or hispanics.
Yeah I didn't get that premise at all. Good history lesson, but I didn't understand the connection between "ghetto" and "racist". It's like - what was the point of this obvious cut and paste from a web site?
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:39 PM
 
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FYI, here's the current Random House Dictionary definition...

ghet·to
1. a section of a city, esp. a thickly populated slum area, inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships.
2. (formerly, in most European countries) a section of a city in which all Jews were required to live.
3. a section predominantly inhabited by Jews.
4. any mode of living, working, etc., that results from stereotyping or biased treatment: job ghettos for women; ghettos for the elderly.

As you can see by the first definition, it is now accepted to mean a run-down or "slum" area of town. I'm a Jewish person who currently lives in the "ghetto" (everyone who lives here calls it that, no matter what their race), so am I being racist to myself, or to the other ethnicities here? I'm very confused, LOL.
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Old 01-06-2007, 09:10 AM
 
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Second World War

Main article: Ghettos in occupied Europe 1939 - 1944

Ghettos established by the ***** in which Jews were confined, and later shipped to concentration camps.
Ghettos established by the ***** in which Jews were confined, and later shipped to concentration camps.

During World War II, ghettos were established by the ***** to confine Jews into tightly packed areas of the cities of Eastern Europe. Starting in 1939, Adolf Eichmann, head of the Final Solution program, began to systematically move Polish Jews into designated areas of large Polish cities. The first large ghetto at Tuliszkow was established in December 1939 or January 1940, followed by the Łódź Ghetto in April 1940 and the Warsaw Ghetto in October 1940, with many other ghettos established throughout 1940 and 1941. The Ghettos were walled off, and any Jew found leaving them was shot. The Warsaw Ghetto was the largest of these Ghettos, with 380,000 people and the Łódź Ghetto, the second largest, holding about 160,000.

The situation in the ghettos was brutal. In Warszawa, 30% of the population were forced to live in 2.4% of the city's area, a density of 9.2 people per room. In the ghetto of Odrzywol, 700 people lived in an area previously occupied by 5 families, between 12 and 30 to each small room. The Jews were not allowed out of the ghetto, so they had to rely on replenishments supplied by the *****: in Warszawa this was 253 calories per Jew, compared to 669 calories per non-Jewish Pole and 2,613 calories per German. With crowded living conditions, starvation diets, and little sanitation (in the Łódź Ghetto 95% of apartments had no sanitation, piped water or sewers) hundreds of thousands of Jews died of disease and starvation.

In 1942, the ***** began Operation Reinhard, the systematic deportation to extermination camps during the Holocaust. The authorities deported Jews from everywhere in Europe to the ghettos of the East, or directly to the extermination camps -- almost 300,000 people were deported from the Warsaw Ghetto alone to Treblinka over the course of 52 days. In some of the Ghettos the local resistance organizations started Ghetto uprisings, none were successful, and the Jewish populations of the ghettos were almost entirely killed.
Whats with the **** can't say Germans?
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:59 PM
 
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Whats with the **** can't say Germans?
He is writing the N word like in the Third Reich. The software automatically deletes the word.
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