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Old 06-02-2023, 12:07 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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You're the one who has the time and desire to waste on such topics, so get to work.
can't back up your claim, eh?

that's known as a lie.
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Old 06-02-2023, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The point I was making was that the message is that it's OK if they are not straight. But apparently that goes too far.

You can't change someone's sexuality with a parade.
But if the person is young and easily manipulated, you can cause a great many of them to become confused about their own gender, and believe they were likely born in the wrong body.
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Old 06-02-2023, 12:26 PM
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Is this how you "destroy the patriarchy"? Will there be free soy lattes?
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Old 06-02-2023, 12:55 PM
 
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How can a toddler have gay pride if they aren't even old enough to understand anything about that stuff??? One might suggest these children are being prepped to be part of that lifestyle, whether they will have those urges or not. This is why the term "groomer" exists. Even many LGBTQ people are calling out this stuff and saying this is not right. I don't have any dog in this race, since I don't have children, I'm not part of the alphabet brigade, etc. But I do take the time to listen to what people have to say about these issues. So I can understand the concern that many have about this sort of thing. I don't feel their concerns are unfounded. I just think they are ignored.
Grooming refers to someone who builds a relationship with a minor with the intention of having a sexual relationship. Commonly referring to dirty old men going after little girls, child marriages, abusive clergy, and the like. Some talking heads on the right have just been trying to redefine it to merely exposing children to the idea that LGBT people even exist.

Children are inquisitive and they notice when someone has two mommies and what not. Especially you know if they do themself.

Like the origin of the drag queen story hour. It wasn't the idea of some drag queen out to indoctrinate children. It was an idea and invitation by a ***** parent that would be more inclusive experience that wasn't only heteronormative. So families with two moms or what have you would have occasional stories that looked like them too. These voluntary experiences that parents can opt to take their children to if that appeals to them same as these parades. It's not some brainwashing.
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Old 06-02-2023, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Grooming refers to someone who builds a relationship with a minor with the intention of having a sexual relationship. Commonly referring to dirty old men going after little girls, child marriages, abusive clergy, and the like. Some talking heads on the right have just been trying to redefine it to merely exposing children to the idea that LGBT people even exist.

Children are inquisitive and they notice when someone has two mommies and what not. Especially you know if they do themself.

Like the origin of the drag queen story hour. It wasn't the idea of some drag queen out to indoctrinate children. It was an idea and invitation by a ***** parent that would be more inclusive experience that wasn't only heteronormative. So families with two moms or what have you would have occasional stories that looked like them too. These voluntary experiences that parents can opt to take their children to if that appeals to them same as these parades. It's not some brainwashing.
You can also groom children into following a political or social ideology. The CRT, and the LGBTQIA++ trans movement is both, a social ideology and an American Marxist ideology. Destroying religion and the traditional family structure has always been the goal of the Marxists.

MARX, ENGELS, AND THE ABOLITION OF THE FAMILY

BTW, how is a man dressing up like a clownish stripper woman, in keeping with the way a child is being raised by two women, who happen to be lesbians?
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Old 06-02-2023, 01:13 PM
 
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But if the person is young and easily manipulated, you can cause a great many of them to become confused about their own gender, and believe they were likely born in the wrong body.
Enforcing strict gender norms is what is confusing. What do you think telling a boy who likes to skip, play with dolls, dress up, loves pink, cries, etc not to do any of those things because "boys don't do that" tells him about his gender identity if he just naturally does those things? Essentially try to bully/indoctrinate a cultural idea of manhood onto all boys even though such constructs are entirely artificial.
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Old 06-02-2023, 01:17 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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This is about like a town hosting a "nazi parade" for babies, toddlers, kids, and teens. It's all about indoctrination. They only difference is one toxic ideology is being traded for another toxic ideology.
That is an excellent analogy. And a very sad one.
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Old 06-02-2023, 01:21 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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Enforcing strict gender norms is what is confusing. What do you think telling a boy who likes to skip, play with dolls, dress up, loves pink, cries, etc not to do any of those things because "boys don't do that" tells him about his gender identity if he just naturally does those things? Essentially try to bully/indoctrinate a cultural idea of manhood onto all boys even though such constructs are entirely artificial.
Who has suggested anything remotely close to what you are saying? I frequently say, "Let people do/dress/act however they want. It doesn't make them a different gender!"
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Old 06-02-2023, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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can't back up your claim, eh?

that's known as a lie.
can't put any energy into it, eh?

that's known as laziness.
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Old 06-02-2023, 01:27 PM
 
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You can also groom children into following a political or social ideology. The CRT, and the LGBTQIA++ trans movement is both, a social ideology and an American Marxist ideology. Destroying religion and the traditional family structure has always been the goal of the Marxists.

MARX, ENGELS, AND THE ABOLITION OF THE FAMILY

BTW, how is a man dressing up like a clownish stripper woman, in keeping with the way a child is being raised by two women, who happen to be lesbians?
Children often end up with differing political and social ideologies than their parents.

The common meaning of indoctrination is indoctrination into religion. An entirely artificial construct that children would not arrive at themselves without being "groomed" into it. It sure sounds like a lot of projection when these religious fundamentalists make accusations of grooming. The LGBT message is one of love and acceptance. Not division and destruction. Religious families that cast out their LGBT children are the ones destroying families.

This sure sounds like many Republican's answer when asked about gay marriage...

"It is not at all clear what form Marx thought marriage would take in communist society, but again, Engels filled in the details. Marriage would no longer be a legal relationship, but would be purely a private affair between individuals."

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As long as there have been books for children, there have been adults trying to get children to read books.

One good way to do that is to read to them. And one good way to hold their attention is to dress with pizazz.

The rise of drag queen storytime can be traced back to the San Francisco Bay Area — long a haven for ***** folk — where a Market Street bookstore hosted what it billed as “America’s first drag queen storytime” a decade ago. It looked a lot like the drag story hours held around the country today, and completely unlike the fantastical, sexualized vision pushed by the political right: just a colorful queen in a sky-high hat reading to a bunch of kids.

The idea got a big boost two years later when Michelle Tea decided to bring the event to more families. A new mother, Tea attended a children’s reading event at an area library, as might any other parent with a hope of instilling a love for reading in their child. But it got her thinking about putting on reading events that would feel more inclusive of ***** parents like her.
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