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AKA Medicare for all. We love Medicare, why all under 65 are prohibited from it, deludes us. It is worth every penny.
Right now everyone working and under 65 is paying for Medicare to the tune of 1.45% of their wages, and the employer pays the other 1.45% for a total of 2.9%.
Medicare covers about 65 Million people now, do you think you will get the same service and benefits once you add 5 times as many people to cover the entire 330 Million+ people without drastically increasing taxes or decreasing services?
Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It does. Quite often, if the procedure is expensive. I just Googled it and got 25,200,000 results in 0.04 seconds. That's a lot of denial of life saving claims that's going on there.
And I'm fine if you ignore me, but everyone else here needs to know what you said is completely false. It happens all the time.
As a retired internist with direct patient care experience since 1974, I will need some time to think of any examples. Unlikely to be 'often', but no doubt have happened. Some examples from you might be helpful.
Right now everyone working and under 65 is paying for Medicare to the tune of 1.45% of their wages, and the employer pays the other 1.45% for a total of 2.9%.
Medicare covers about 65 Million people now, do you think you will get the same service and benefits once you add 5 times as many people to cover the entire 330 Million+ people without drastically increasing taxes or decreasing services?
Service is bound to take a hit, as well as doctor pay and their dissatisfaction. They will drag their feet. Big reasons not to go full single payer.
Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It does. Quite often, if the procedure is expensive. I just Googled it and got 25,200,000 results in 0.04 seconds. That's a lot of denial of life saving claims that's going on there.
And I'm fine if you ignore me, but everyone else here needs to know what you said is completely false. It happens all the time.
Okay so does that mean 25 Million people have had their claims denied?
Or does it mean that 10,000 people have had their claims denied and repeated 2,500 times?
Or does it mean that 25 Million people had their claim originally denied, but later approved?
Or does it mean that there are pages with your search terms that have nothing to do with a claim being denied?
Or does it mean....
Which type of claims were denied?
Did one insurance company deny more than others?
How far back do those 25 Million hits go?
Were any of them "Medicare" related?
A little context and specifics would help rather than some shotgun blanket statement that you think proves some point.
Right now everyone working and under 65 is paying for Medicare to the tune of 1.45% of their wages, and the employer pays the other 1.45% for a total of 2.9%.
Medicare covers about 65 Million people now, do you think you will get the same service and benefits once you add 5 times as many people to cover the entire 330 Million+ people without drastically increasing taxes or decreasing services?
Sure, why not? Statistics-gathering agencies in both countries publish averages of income taxes paid.
For tax year 2023, U.S. federal income tax brackets range from 10% to 37% for individuals. In Canada, the range is 15% to 33%. In the U.S., the lowest tax bracket is 10% for an individual earning $11,000 or less and jumps to 22% (after the 12% bracket) for those earning over $44,725.* The corresponding bottom Canadian bracket of 15% applies to income up to $53,359 (in Canadian dollars)
I’m starting to agree with you. I have seen horror stories about the UK NHS but from all accounts, people like it and would take it any day over the mess we have here now.
The UK NHS is widely regarded as the bad example of how to do national health care, compared to that of other nations.
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