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Old 11-18-2023, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Here is some big, recent news that's completely gone under the radar. I suppose it's been overshadowed by other news, but even with all those other things going on, IMO it still deserved a lot more coverage in the media than it actually got. In fact, the only place I saw it was on Calculated Risk. If it hadn't been for that, I'm not sure I would have seen it anywhere else at all.

The common refrain among many on the right, and even some on the left, is that immigration - especially illegal immigration - is going to overwhelm, like, the whole country and blah blah blah. And the cities of the US will be teeming with Third World-type slums, and so on, and so forth.

But these newest Census long-term projections tell us that, contrary to popular belief, the US isn't going to grow much more at all.

New Census Long-Term Population Projections Are MASSIVELY Lower Than Previous Projections
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From housing economist Tom Lawler:

Last Friday Census released new long-term projections of the US resident population, this time going out to 2100. The last time Census released long-term population projections was in 2017 (going out to 2060), and the 2023 projections for the “middle” scenario are massively lower than the 2017 projections.

Here is a chart showing the “middle-case” projections for the US resident population for the 2017 release compared to the 2023 release ...

Needless to say, these differences are “massive.”

The huge differences in the latest population projections from those in 2017 reflect (1) much lower projections for births; (2) higher projections for deaths; and (3) significantly lower projections for net international migration.
The Census Bureau's last projection, in 2017, showed the US growing continually to 2060, reaching a population of 404 million by then.

Now, given more recent data on births, deaths and immigration, they're projecting only a population of 364 million in 2060.

That's 40 million fewer than they thought just 6 years ago! In fact, in their middle scenario, they're projecting the US's population will begin shrinking after 2080! In that scenario, the population of the US will drop to 366 million by 2100. For reference, the population of the US is currently 334 million.

So, over the next 77 years, the population of the US will have grown only 9.6%!

You can read the Census Bureau's press release on the matter here:
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...ojections.html

Bring on the immigrants!

 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:01 PM
 
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If our corrupt government stops out of control spending, a stagnating or declining population is not a problem.
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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And for additional context, back in 2009 the Census Bureau was projecting the US population would reach 439 million by 2050!

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/C...document09.pdf

Now they're projecting it's never even going to get close to that.

At the rate things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if the Census Bureau's "low" projection ends up being closer to reality.
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:03 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Here is some big, recent news that's completely gone under the radar. I suppose it's been overshadowed by other news, but even with all those other things going on, IMO it still deserved a lot more coverage in the media than it actually got. In fact, the only place I saw it was on Calculated Risk. If it hadn't been for that, I'm not sure I would have seen it anywhere else at all.

The common refrain among many on the right, and even some on the left, is that immigration - especially illegal immigration - is going to overwhelm, like, the whole country and blah blah blah. And the cities of the US will be teeming with Third World-type slums, and so on, and so forth.

But these newest Census long-term projections tell us that, contrary to popular belief, the US isn't going to grow much more at all.

New Census Long-Term Population Projections Are MASSIVELY Lower Than Previous Projections

The Census Bureau's last projection, in 2017, showed the US growing continually to 2060, reaching a population of 404 million by then.

Now, given more recent data on births, deaths and immigration, they're projecting only a population of 364 million in 2060.

That's 40 million fewer than they thought just 6 years ago! In fact, in their middle scenario, they're projecting the US's population will begin shrinking after 2080! In that scenario, the population of the US will drop to 366 million by 2100. For reference, the population of the US is currently 334 million.

So, over the next 77 years, the population of the US will have grown only 9.6%!

You can read the Census Bureau's press release on the matter here:
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...ojections.html

Bring on the immigrants!
This defies your subscription with the climate change cult, which says we need decreasing populations...
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:06 PM
 
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Good. Our population is already one of the highest in the world. We don't need to keep accelerating the numbers by 100 million every 30-50 years or so just to meet some kind of economic growth quota.

If people say robotics and automation really are the future then we don't need to import as many people. Reduce the immigration amounts and focus more on helping the people already here. Of course that won't happen at the moment since Magoo's handlers are keen on demographically engineering the country for their benefit.
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:10 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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They forgot to add the millions upon millions of illegals
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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This defies your subscription with the climate change cult, which says we need decreasing populations...
In spite of an increasing population, US emissions of CO2 have generally fallen since 2007:
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=52380

A rising population need not result in rising CO2 emissions.
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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They forgot to add the millions upon millions of illegals
This includes all sources of immigration.
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:14 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The global lock downs during the pandemic had noticeable favorable changes to the environment.
 
Old 11-18-2023, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Like most developed countries, we're not having enough kids. I'm okay with young legal immigration that's been vetted.
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