Bush Will Leave $482 Billion Deficit

[KUchief25]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Nope, not going to happen considering Obama was spending like crazy..

These folks need to get a budget first. If we all ran our households like the democrats run the country we'd be in jail by now.

[california-jewel]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

Your first mistake is that the link you provided is from the NYTimes! No credibility there. Your second mistake is that you failed to mention that Obama has increased our debt far more than Bush in less than half the time.

Obama is the only one responisble for our debt today. He could have (if he wanted to) turned things around. But, he is a liberal, and a big government socialist. No chance of it happening. So, we are where we are, and Obama is to blame. Entirely.

Guess part of the promise of Hope n' Change was garbage in and garbage out.
Part of the change, surely did not mean Obama's Debt, nor a thriving booming economy.


Heard today, on several shows, we are in a recession, unemployment was very high this past month, housing is worse then ever, inspite of the low low interest rates.

And they said the sad thing is more people will be losing jobs and more stores will close.


Just great news, for a booming economy isn't it!

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Nope, not going to happen considering Obama was spending like crazy..

In 2008 when $3T was spent, or in 2009?

[roysoldboy]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

In 2008 when $3T was spent, or in 2009?

I wonder just how much Obama's administration has spent since the debt went up $5 trillion under them. Not a word about how much tax money was taken in just the amount of debt that is left.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

I wonder just how much Obama's administration has spent since the debt went up $5 trillion under them. Not a word about how much tax money was taken in just the amount of debt that is left.

You keep wondering Roy, while your favorite commentators on TV (and radio?) keep telling you what to think. But if you want to think on your own for a change, here are a couple of very simple examples that should help:

1- 2003 Medicare Reform carried a price tag of $800 Billion. I'm sure you are one of its supporters. How was it designed to be paid for?
2- Federal Tax Revenue in 2009 was only $2.1 T. That is a trillion dollar lower than the spending that happened under Bush in 2008, much less in 2009. Why do you want to blame Obama for that? Remember, that federal revenue is half a trillion dollar less than revenue in 2000. Do you think that affects anything, or simply a moot point?

[KUchief25]

See the comments above if you want to know why the spending went up in '09. Democrats controlled congress and like pghquest they waited until he was out to pass their nonsense.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by KUchief25

See the comments above if you want to know why the spending went up in '09. Democrats controlled congress and like pghquest they waited until he was out to pass their nonsense.

Quote a year when republicans had control and spending went down. In fact, spending went up 21% during Bush's first term, with republicans also in control of the Congress.

[KUchief25]

Name a republican who has doubled the national debt. Bammer is on pace to do that.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by KUchief25

Name a republican who has doubled the national debt. Bammer is on pace to do that.

Well, no President has come even close to double the debt in 3 years, much less four. However, two Presidents have seen National Debt nearly double (W Bush) or Triple (Reagan) during their time in White House.

National Debt Per Capita, by President (first three years, worst on top):
1981-1983: +47% - Reagan
1985-1987: +42% - Reagan Second Term
1989-1991: +37% - HW Bush
2009-2011: +37% - Obama
2005-2007: +21% - W Bush Second Term
2001-2003: +20% - W Bush
1993-1995: +16% - Clinton
1997-1999: +05% - Clinton Second Term

National Debt, by President (first three years, worst on top):
1981-1983: +52% - Reagan
1985-1987: +46% - Reagan Second Term
1989-1991: +42% - HW Bush
2009-2011: +41% - Obama
2001-2003: +24% - W Bush
2005-2007: +18% - W Bush Second Term
1993-1995: +19% - Clinton
1997-1999: +08% - Clinton Second Term

National Debt, by President (by four year term, worst on top):
1981-1984: +79% - Reagan First Term
1985-1988: +61% - Reagan Second Term (Two Term Increase: 288%)
1989-1992: +56% - HW Bush
2009-2011: +41% - Obama (Partial)
2005-2008: +41% - W Bush Second Term (Two Term Increase: 89%)
2001-2004: +34% - W Bush First Term
1993-1996: +27% - Clinton First Term
1997-2000: +06% - Clinton Second Term (Two Term Increase: 35%)

Remember, these numbers are calculated ignoring the impact of last budget of each President. For example, if we assigned Carter's last year spending to Reagan, and so on... the same would read:
1981-1984: +89% - Reagan First Term
1985-1988: +52% - Reagan Second Term (Two Term Increase: 287%)
1989-1992: +54% - HW Bush
2005-2008: +51% - W Bush Second Term (Two Term Increase: 207%)
2001-2004: +37% - W Bush First Term
2009-2011: +23% - Obama (Partial Term)
1993-1996: +21% - Clinton First Term
1997-2000: +08% - Clinton Second Term (Two Term Increase: 31%)

Now, answer my previous question that you didn't:
1- Quote a year when republicans had control and spending went down.

And here is another:
2- Which President took office with the private sector employment at a level LOWER than it was Eight Years ago?

[KUchief25]

Obama isn't done yet. If you read my post I said he is "on pace" to do that.

I honestly don't know what you swooners are trying to accomplish. You think Obama hasn't increased spending on the debt and deficit somehow. Good luck as nobody is buying the turd your shoveling not even yourself I'm sure. If you do then your more lost than gilligan ever was.