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Old 10-02-2008, 06:26 PM
 
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sigh. Do people always nearly double estimates to make a point?

Try 515 billion.

DefenseLink News Release: Fiscal Year 2009 Department Of Defense Budget Released

Budget Management: Fiscal Discipline & Managing for Results

Heres one where they include "extras"

What Do the Pentagon's Numbers Really Mean?

And another

Military budget of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can I use the OPs math and have it applied to my salary?

The Trillion number is a stretch and appears to come from here:

The Trillion-Dollar Defense Budget Is Already Here: Newsroom: The Independent Institute

Includes ALOT of things that are not military

Good reads tho. Remember ALL sources above have a specific Point of View whether moonbats or wingnuts.

No matter what number you find, its in the billions and we know the stupid missle defense program doesnt work, but they still throw billions at it, we know theat the black-ops programs diver billions who knows where, and that we are spending billions to fund radar and missle bases in Poland and Czech in order to **** off Russia. Good read for you?

 
Old 10-02-2008, 06:36 PM
 
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No matter what number you find, its in the billions and we know the stupid missle defense program doesnt work, but they still throw billions at it, we know theat the black-ops programs diver billions who knows where, and that we are spending billions to fund radar and missle bases in Poland and Czech in order to **** off Russia. Good read for you?
Tests for Missile Defense -- have proven that it does work--many hits above average for the MDA--I can get more numbers for you in a bit, but don't believe Obama when he says it doesn't work. It does.
 
Old 10-02-2008, 06:38 PM
 
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No matter what number you find, its in the billions and we know the stupid missle defense program doesnt work, but they still throw billions at it, we know theat the black-ops programs diver billions who knows where, and that we are spending billions to fund radar and missle bases in Poland and Czech in order to **** off Russia. Good read for you?

Russia attacked Georgia--when they felt it was weak--who is guilty??? When Kennedy was President we had bay of pigs and all kinds of sh** bc the soviets and cuba believed we were weak/he was weak/easy to push around due to idealistic thinking not based in reality or truly understanding one's enemy--SOUND FAMILIAR??
 
Old 10-02-2008, 07:02 PM
 
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Russia attacked Georgia--when they felt it was weak--who is guilty??? When Kennedy was President we had bay of pigs and all kinds of sh** bc the soviets and cuba believed we were weak/he was weak/easy to push around due to idealistic thinking not based in reality or truly understanding one's enemy--SOUND FAMILIAR??
Uh, Georgia attacked South Osetta first, and the missles were sent to Cuba to respond to US building missle base in Turkey.
 
Old 10-02-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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Tests for Missile Defense -- have proven that it does work--many hits above average for the MDA--I can get more numbers for you in a bit, but don't believe Obama when he says it doesn't work. It does.
Military experts say that missle defense cannot tell real from dummy missle, its useless in practical terms, but we throw billions at it every year.

"we have spent over $120 billion on missile defense in the past 25 years; that the annual budget is expected to double by 2013 to $19 billion; and that the current $10 billion per year is equal to one-third of the Homeland Security budget, roughly equal to the State Department budget, greater than the FEMA budget

there are fewer ballistic missiles today than 10-20 years ago; fewer hostile missiles potentially threatening the US

Rep. Stephen Lynch asked whether the allocation of resources is proportional to the threat. "Absolutely not. I believe that the Ballistic Missile Defense program is the longest running scam in the history of the Department of Defense," Cirincione said. "This is an enormous waste of money We're no further along in our ability to actually hit a real ballistic missile now than we were 20 years ago."

With the Administration requesting a record $12.3 billion for missile defense this year, pushing its European-based missile defense system on Czech and Polish citizens who want nothing to do with it, and fueling a new arms race with Russia, the need to put an end to this madness is clear. "
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