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Old 11-01-2008, 10:06 PM
 
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Who exactly are those who think they deserve something from me?


Well, for starters the CEOs of the failed finacial institutions not only think they deserve your money to bail out their companies but feel they deserve your money for their Golden Parachutes.

These people are immensely wealthy and take your money anyway.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Erie, PA
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Who exactly are those who think they deserve something from me?


Well, for starters the CEOs of the failed finacial institutions not only think they deserve your money to bail out their companies but feel they deserve your money for their Golden Parachutes.

These people are immensely wealthy and take your money anyway.
Well, the bailout is a good example of socialism for the rich, which is particularly nefarious, I agree! At least socialism for the poor has good intentions. CEOs of failed institutions have just as much of an entitlement mentality as the "welfare class."

It seems everyone wants to get someone else's money by force, which used to be called "stealing". Whether one uses the IRS or a gun doesn't make much difference to me...it's still taking money from someone against their will. I guess the ultra rich figured, "hey, if the poor can get taxpayer money in exchange for votes, why can't we?"
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:18 PM
 
Location: northeast headed southwest
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So what are you suggesting, no taxes?
How will we maintain a military, infrastructure, public schools, etc? Or do you think it would be better for everyone if we didn't have those things? How short-sighted.
See past your greed for a second. Do you want the US to be a successful and prosperous nation or do you want your children to live in a world filled with poverty?
You don't exist in a vacuum. Without other people prospering, no one will be around to pay you that $250,000/year.
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Why not be a tax protestor in one easy lesson: Stop making money, and they'll stop taking it.

What is America going to do when some other banana republic discovers that the secret to the universe is to abolish government revenues and expenditures and just have a little volunteer government to run the draft board lottery if there is ever a war that the citizens don't think is worth fighting voluntarily. Then that enlightened country will sudeenly blossom out as the perfect nirvana of governance that you all pine away for, and they will crush us like a slimy slug beneath their boot---because of course, by the very nature of their perfection, they will have no charity for the downtrodden.

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Old 11-01-2008, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Pay your taxes or ****.

:-)
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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Why not be a tax protestor in one easy lesson: Stop making money, and they'll stop taking it.
who would help the poor if the rich stopped making money?

I give of my OWN free will, I do not need a middle man to distribute the 20% of my income I donate to Charity's in my area, especially one that would keep a good portion of that 20% for overhead, and office costs.
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:07 AM
 
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There is a difference between giving of your own free will and it being taken from you...that's in the Bible too...hmmm, let me see, something about not stealing...
Speaking of the Bible, there is a very profound passage from 2 Thessalonians (3:10). It goes like this: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat. We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy, they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat."
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:22 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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who would help the poor if the rich stopped making money?

I give of my OWN free will, I do not need a middle man to distribute the 20% of my income I donate to Charity's in my area, especially one that would keep a good portion of that 20% for overhead, and office costs.
Which is essentially the problem with governmental social programs - too much overhead and not enough money funding the actual service delivery!
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:26 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I bet he sets the price. It used to be somebody else's money, and now it is his. He hasn't told us what he does to so richly deserve a thousand dollars a day. except some vague "worked his arse off". I suspect he buys things low and sells them high, and never even sees what he sells, and the heaviest thing he lifts all day is a Blackberry or maybe a third martini. I'm looking forward to seeing the OP and a camel duking it out at the eye of the needle.

Yes, it used to be someone else's money, but "someone else" now has a good or service to show for that money.


Are you saying that you expect the OP to provide whatever good or service he provides for free?


Surely, that is not how you feel capitalism works.


Was he supposed to trade his good and service for food? Clothes? Wampum?


Likewise, with his salary, surely the OP doesn't hoard every blessed dime. The OP spends, and therefore, many, many people probably have their share of the OP's money as well.


I don't understand your point.

I also don't understand your leap to equating the OP with a junk bond salesman or day trader. BTW, who cares if he is a day trader?
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Who are you?

Who are this "group" of middle class "poor is me's" who are sooooo damn happy and glib to want to take from me?
They're called bankers, Halliburton, etc.
You seem to have no problem with bankers and corrupt businesses stealing from you, but other regular people - that bothers you?

A society is known by how it cares for its least fortunate, those who cannot care for themselves.

I feel sad for your heart.
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