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Old 11-16-2008, 10:54 PM
 
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Turns out it's just like the old plan of how to attract whites. Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention suggests pandering to more conservative Hispanics and Blacks with more hyperventilation about same-sex marriage!

Great, this will really fix the problems. I can see the new GOP slogans already. No, I guess I really can't see them, or write them here anyway.

golfgod
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:23 PM
 
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Didnt they learn its about issues not race or gender as to why Obama won?

McCain picked Palin thinking gender would win over race.. but it just wasnt about that.

Do they really think Black people even if they dont support gay people are repubs? No way
they have been Dems for a very long time and that is not going to change.
Hispanics also know Repubs have not been on their side.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:43 AM
 
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Didnt they learn its about issues not race or gender as to why Obama won?

McCain picked Palin thinking gender would win over race.. but it just wasnt about that.

Do they really think Black people even if they dont support gay people are repubs? No way
they have been Dems for a very long time and that is not going to change.
Hispanics also know Repubs have not been on their side.
In what way have Reps not been on Hispanics side?
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:58 AM
 
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Go check out the immigration subforum.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:35 AM
 
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Go check out the immigration subforum.
exactly. I went by there tonight oh my.. you think repubs hate gays..
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:56 AM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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Didnt they learn its about issues not race or gender as to why Obama won?

McCain picked Palin thinking gender would win over race.. but it just wasnt about that.

Do they really think Black people even if they dont support gay people are repubs? No way
they have been Dems for a very long time and that is not going to change.
Hispanics also know Repubs have not been on their side.
Wait a minute...you think Obama won on the issues?
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:31 AM
 
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Go check out the immigration subforum.

So Hispanics don't like Republicans because the Republicans are against illegal immigration and want to enforce immigration laws?
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:37 AM
 
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Wait a minute...you think Obama won on the issues?
We don't think, we know.
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:46 AM
 
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Turns out it's just like the old plan of how to attract whites. Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention suggests pandering to more conservative Hispanics and Blacks with more hyperventilation about same-sex marriage!

Great, this will really fix the problems. I can see the new GOP slogans already. No, I guess I really can't see them, or write them here anyway.

golfgod
In a issues neutral election, which is how I would define the 2000 election cycle as being, the Republicans were able to make small in roads amongst both African Americans and hispanics. The faith-based initiative and "compassionate conservatismâ„¢" were attractive and had not Bush made a sham of compassionate conservatism and a ****-up of everything else he touched this strategy might have worked.

In order for the Republicans to repeat the gains of 2000 will require finding a believable version of the George Bush or John McCain of 2000, which is going to one damned hard thing to do. It would take an an exceptionally disastrous first term for Obama to shake his support in the African American community and even in that case I doubt that the Republicans could do much to shake it. As for Hispanics, Obama would have pursue a dramatically anti-immigrant agenda to rattle his Hispanic base, so that means that not only is 2012 out but 2018 as well.

Maybe they can pull it off by mid-century. In short, not in my lifetime.
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Wait a minute...you think Obama won on the issues?

Of coulrse not. 50-million white people only voted for him because he is black, and voted againt McCain because he is white. It had nothing to do with issues
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