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Palin and Huckabee are presently polling the highest for President among today's GOP voters. Each is a fundamentalist evangelical Protestant Christian. Does this indicate that the future of the GOP lies in being more precise in its marketing and should change its name to be more accurate? And for whom do the greedy fat cats like the Rockefellers and the cynical neo-cons like Cheney vote for next time around? Not for a fundamentalist Christian!
The GOP is obviously having an identity crisis right before our eyes.
I like both of them but they need to learn that to be a Republican you shouldn't want the government to control the lives of the citizens. They should take a tip from Goldwater.
I like both of them but they need to learn that to be a Republican you shouldn't want the government to control the lives of the citizens. They should take a tip from Goldwater.
Palin and Huckabee are presently polling the highest for President among today's GOP voters. Each is a fundamentalist evangelical Protestant Christian. Does this indicate that the future of the GOP lies in being more precise in its marketing and should change its name to be more accurate? And for whom do the greedy fat cats like the Rockefellers and the cynical neo-cons like Cheney vote for next time around? Not for a fundamentalist Christian!
The GOP is obviously having an identity crisis right before our eyes.
Guiliani was polling high for 2008 until the primary season began. The GOP nominee in 2012 wont be Huckabee or Palin.
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Guiliani was polling high for 2008 until the primary season began. The GOP nominee in 2012 wont be Huckabee or Palin.
It's always been an uneasy alliance between the Social Conservatives and other groups like the Libertarians, Fiscal Conservatives and Moderates within the GOP. The trouble is that Social Conservatives (a.k.a. Evangelicals) are a huge voting group they've come to depend on, especially in the South, and even Reagan's former campaign manager, Ed Rollins says the GOP is now a "Southern Party".
That's alot of votes they can't afford to lose, but at the same time it's always depended on a basically anti-intellectual, anti-minority, "southern strategy" platform, which the majority of the country has been buying less and less of. Throw in all the "talking heads" like Coulter, Limbaugh, O'Reilly & Co. who continue to make a good living sustaining this fringe "base" with the same 'ol diet of outrage and fear, and the Republicans have not only boxed themselves out of the mainstream, but also into an ideological & political dead-end.
Just as the Dems had to eventually distance themselves from the extremists of the 60's, it seems like the only way out, is that sooner or later the GOP is going to have to re-group and distance itself from its own extremists, the Social Conservative "base".
Although I don't agree on many issues with "Christian Social Conservatives", after 8 years of the Neocon butchers, looters and war profiteers , a little Southern Social Conservatism would almost be a refreshing change.
if this election has proven anything... it's proven that the election is about independent voters. If the republicans want to throw their tact behind some christian crap, they're only setting themselves up for failure. I know the christian conservative base likes to think they're a powerful force in politics, and they may be right, but they certainly are not the majority anymore.
if this election has proven anything... it's proven that the election is about independent voters. If the republicans want to throw their tact behind some christian crap, they're only setting themselves up for failure. I know the christian conservative base likes to think they're a powerful force in politics, and they may be right, but they certainly are not the majority anymore.
I wouldn't bet on that. Check the statistics and see just how many of the Christian right did not vote at all during this last election because McCain was considered far too progressive with his stance on abortion. Only the left actually fell for the retarded notion that McCain was as conservative as Bush.
I'm not saying one side should rule the other, but wouldn't it be more mature if we all give some breathing space to BOTH sides instead of name calling and bickering?
It's always been an uneasy alliance between the Social Conservatives and other groups like the Libertarians, Fiscal Conservatives and Moderates within the GOP. The trouble is that Social Conservatives (a.k.a. Evangelicals) are a huge voting group they've come to depend on, especially in the South, and even Reagan's former campaign manager, Ed Rollins says the GOP is now a "Southern Party".
That's alot of votes they can't afford to lose, but at the same time it's always depended on a basically anti-intellectual, anti-minority, "southern strategy" platform, which the majority of the country has been buying less and less of. Throw in all the "talking heads" like Coulter, Limbaugh, O'Reilly & Co. who continue to make a good living sustaining this fringe "base" with the same 'ol diet of outrage and fear, and the Republicans have not only boxed themselves out of the mainstream, but also into an ideological & political dead-end.
Just as the Dems had to eventually distance themselves from the extremists of the 60's, it seems like the only way out, is that sooner or later the GOP is going to have to re-group and distance itself from its own extremists, the Social Conservative "base".
Do you have any ideas as to how this can be done... "the GOP is going to have to re-group and distance itself from its own extremists, the Social Conservative "base""...
Any reading materials or links to offer? What do you think about a younger man like Bobby Jindal?
Although I don't agree on many issues with "Christian Social Conservatives", after 8 years of the Neocon butchers, looters and war profiteers , a little Southern Social Conservatism would almost be a refreshing change.
What issues do you agree with them on, and what issues do you not agree... what would be your ideal candidate? Thanks.
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