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Old 01-26-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Yes, you're absolutely right.

Now... we both know that if/when this guy blows something up and kills a bunch of Americans, people all over are going to be screaming, "Why did Obama let him go?!?!?!?!?!"

Hence, the difficulty.
Perhaps a few idiots might scream that. But nobody worth listening to. Obama has nothing to do with it.

Unlike Bush, who did let terrorists loose to attack us.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:02 AM
 
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Perhaps a few idiots might scream that. But nobody worth listening to. Obama has nothing to do with it.

Unlike Bush, who did let terrorists loose to attack us.
...oh the irony of the two bolded sentences.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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Conservatives will never understand that war is not like ajax. It doesn't clean up everything. The war on terror is as stupid as the war on drugs. Holding 500 suspected terrorists only gives purpose to the 1000s around the world. Just like locking up drug users doesn't stop the supply or the demand. Ending both of these wars and developing tangible solutions is our only hope in both matters.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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Conservatives will never understand that war is not like ajax. It doesn't clean up everything. The war on terror is as stupid as the war on drugs. Holding 500 suspected terrorists only gives purpose to the 1000s around the world. Just like locking up drug users doesn't stop the supply or the demand. Ending both of these wars and developing tangible solutions is our only hope in both matters.
Yeah, uhh huhh...

And those tangible solutions would be?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Perhaps a few idiots might scream that. But nobody worth listening to. Obama has nothing to do with it.

Unlike Bush, who did let terrorists loose to attack us.
Not like Clinton who let Osama go on 3 different attempts of apprehending him or killing him and Whoosy Clinton called it off in the last minutes each and every time!

Not like Clinton who knew of Saddams WMD and did nothing about it!

You mean like that

Not unlike obama who intends to release terrorists in his 4 yr term.

Hey Colorado I read that some will be going to your state?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Conservatives will never understand that war is not like ajax. It doesn't clean up everything. The war on terror is as stupid as the war on drugs. Holding 500 suspected terrorists only gives purpose to the 1000s around the world. Just like locking up drug users doesn't stop the supply or the demand. Ending both of these wars and developing tangible solutions is our only hope in both matters.
You are correct. Executing dealers and smugglers would have an impact. Allowing the users to kill themselves by way of their pathetic habits would end the demand issue.
Obama is the prez. Its his job to decide what to do with the 500 we have detained. Its also on him if he releases them and they again attack US interests, soldiers or citizens.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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...oh the irony of the two bolded sentences.
Do you understand "irony?"

If some 63-yr-old guy jailed for terrorism activities is released on schedule - it's nothing to do with Obama. And any idiot who screams that it is Obama's fault deserves to be mocked.

However, Bush did let terrorists go. He claims they were terrorists - that's why they were in Gitmo. It wasn't a judicial process - it was an administrative one. It was Bush's decision to release them. And it was Bush's Defense Department that made the claim that 18 have actually attacked us.

It is surprising to me that the right isn't more up in arms about that. They seem to be more interested in using those real events and the made-up belief that Obama wants to release everyone in Gitmo to score political points. But nobody on the right is angry at Bush over this.

And then there's you, just coincidentally bringing up the lawful release of an old man - are you just trying to distract from the fact that BUSH RELEASED REAL TERRORISTS WHO HAVE ATTACKED US AGAIN????
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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You are correct. Executing dealers and smugglers would have an impact. Allowing the users to kill themselves by way of their pathetic habits would end the demand issue.
Obama is the prez. Its his job to decide what to do with the 500 we have detained. Its also on him if he releases them and they again attack US interests, soldiers or citizens.
You're actually wrong..Executing dealers does nothing. It's so much bigger than that. You don't think we've executed dealers? More just pop up just like terrorist.

We know Obama's the President and we'll hold him accountable for how this plays out.

Another question I had and I'm sure I'll be called un-American for asking. Why is it "illegal" for those living in a soveirgn land to defend their country by whatever means neccesary. We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, I would expect their to be resistance to an invading force. How is it that we consider them terrorist?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Pa
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You're actually wrong..Executing dealers does nothing. It's so much bigger than that. You don't think we've executed dealers? More just pop up just like terrorist.

We know Obama's the President and we'll hold him accountable for how this plays out.

Another question I had and I'm sure I'll be called un-American for asking. Why is it "illegal" for those living in a soveirgn land to defend their country by whatever means neccesary. We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, I would expect their to be resistance to an invading force. How is it that we consider them terrorist?
Executing every single dealer caught would be effective as it is in countries that do just that... We don't execute dealers. Some die why commiting their crimes. Kill them be done with them.
The ones I consider terrorists are not the ones who fight against us. The terrorists are the ones blowing up innocent civilians to make a point.
Can you honestly say that the nut jobs blowing up a funeral are soldiers defending their country? Can you honestly say that those warped freaks who blow up a school, a mosque, a cafe filled with 0 US soldiers are fighting for their country?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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Yeah, uhh huhh...

And those tangible solutions would be?
How about not pissing on every country around the world and acting as if we're above them when we're toturing and doing just as they were. Maybe we would get more worldwide cooperation. A get tough policy might clean up the streets in New York but it wont stop terrorism. We have to take away their tools of recruitment. One way is be the country we were before W. We simply can't be everywhere all the time. Diplomacy is the only tangible way to lessen terrors effect. It will never completely fade.
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