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Old 01-27-2009, 08:55 AM
 
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>have been known to kill Dutch nationals for any 'insult' to Islam - real or perceived.<

Anyone remember the riots world wide when the Pope called Islam violent (Yes I know it was a quote) so they violently rioted to say that was an insult?
Well yeah, and those peaceful riots and calls for beheading when some cartoons of Muhammad showed up.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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And dont' forget the 1.5 billion of wild-eyed muslims all over the world, their swords at the ready...JEEZ!!
It doesn't take 1.5 billion. All it takes is a couple hundred-thousand nut-jobs. Just like any other religion, or non-religion. JEEZ!!
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:27 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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And dont' forget the 1.5 billion of wild-eyed muslims all over the world, their swords at the ready...JEEZ!!
The number varies but a large percentage of Muslims believe suicide bombings are justified...

It is over 10%....

What is 10% of 1,000,000,000????

Hmmm....

it varies from a low of 8% polled to a high of 34%,depending upon the nation....
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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The number varies but a large percentage of Muslims believe suicide bombings are justified...

It is over 10%....

What is 10% of 1,000,000,000????

Hmmm....

it varies from a low of 8% polled to a high of 34%,depending upon the nation....
I don't know...you can't just play with figures...I mean the majority of Israelis support the wholescale assault on Gaza and their army's use of brute force...Do we then label the Israeli population as blood-thirsty murderers as their army was involved in the killing of hundreds of civilians to avenge the deaths of how many Israelis? 5? 6? We don't right?
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Pew research center is pretty well trusted.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I don't know...you can't just play with figures...I mean the majority of Israelis support the wholescale assault on Gaza and their army's use of brute force...Do we then label the Israeli population as blood-thirsty murderers as their army was involved in the killing of hundreds of civilians to avenge the deaths of how many Israelis? 5? 6? We don't right?
No civilians would have been killed if the Hamas cowards had come out and taken on the IDF on the battlefield like men.

But they won't. They remember how the massive armies of the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, and Iraqis ran like rabbits in the face of Israel's tiny army, and how Israel scoured the skies of MIGS.

No, Hamas prefers to hide behind women.

They're yellow.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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I don't know...you can't just play with figures...I mean the majority of Israelis support the wholescale assault on Gaza and their army's use of brute force...
Ummm... That's because the Hamas idiots - hiding out in houses in Gaza - keep shooting rockets into Israel.

While I know this probably comes as a complete shock to you, that might have SOMETHING to do with it.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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I take it nobody saw 60 Minutes last weekend?

We must honor Bob Simon/CBS for a heroic piece of journalism.

Regarding the OP, the Jpost is a source of propaganda. Secondly, Mr. Wilders is not concerned with the "Dutch", Mr. Wilders is a card-carrying biased Zionist (Geert Wilders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), and yes his comments are ridiculous and inflammatory.

It is oft used Neocon trick to try and link Nazis and "Islamofascists", but anyone who saw Bob Simon's piece knows who the real fascists and nazis are today.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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This leader of the right-wing Freedom Party has made a number of extreme remarks about Islam and Muslims, such as calling the Koran the "Islamic Mein Kampf" and referring to "fascist Islam." The Amsterdam court contends that these and other such statements "affect the dignity of Muslims." The attorney-general's office had previously concluded that these and similar remarks were not punishable.

Wilders was initially shocked by the court's decision, but he may well turn the case into a show trial outlining the threat to Western society from violent and hate-inciting forces in the Muslim world...
It doesn't surprise me that, like all guilty of a crime, Wilders is demonstrating "shock" in public. Which proves, however, that he isn't the nuttiest of all, but quite sanely insane extreme right winger, to spew hatred using ethnocentrism/religion, a combination fundamental to neo-fascism regardless of religion. Apparently, he forgot to look in the mirror. Instead, went ahead and shot himself in his butt.

Fundamentally, the Quran couldn't be more similar to the Bible, and if an illiterate person like Wilders had to label Quran as having a neo-fascist agenda, well, Isaac, Noah, Moses, Abraham, David and even Jesus, become those characters playing a role in it.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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Ummm... That's because the Hamas idiots - hiding out in houses in Gaza - keep shooting rockets into Israel.

While I know this probably comes as a complete shock to you, that might have SOMETHING to do with it.
Yeah well..if someone keeps pushing the boundaries of my home again and again with the intent of keeping my family holed up in the closet whilst that someone gets full run of the house, i'd probably react the same way too
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