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Yeah, I knew that was coming. If Clinton had anything to do with any of it, he should be brought to justice. How does another's crimes exonerate Bush and Vampire Dickless Cheney?
It doesn't. My guess is that there are a lot of politcal opponents making accusations. If either of them are guilty of any of the things on their lists, they should go to prison.
1) Choose a death
2) Stick in just enough information to make it look suspicious (often this actually involves invoking the word "suspicious")
3) Leave out critical information that would put the death in a much different light
4) Over emphasize personal connections that are actually pretty minor
Voila!
You have a "mysterious" connection to a "mysterious" death.
It's MAGIC!
But PLENTY of ignorant people will believe it because it reinforces their preconceptions.
Ken
Aw, c'mon, Ken, have you read the entire Mike Connel situation?
It's totally naive to believe that people aren't killed for/in politics. it happens all the time all over the world....do you REALLY think NO American would ever do such a thing??:ro lleyes:
They do. And the perpetrators love it when the allegations are all dismissed as a "whacko conspiracy theories".....isn't that convenient?
1) Choose a death
2) Stick in just enough information to make it look suspicious (often this actually involves invoking the word "suspicious")
3) Leave out critical information that would put the death in a much different light
4) Over emphasize personal connections that are actually pretty minor
Voila!
You have a "mysterious" connection to a "mysterious" death.
It's MAGIC!
But PLENTY of ignorant people will believe it because it reinforces their preconceptions.
Ken
There are one or two I question especially in the Bush camp, but yes all people just pick their mysterious deaths and run with it. I do wonder about Gary Webb though. Another one that was definatly suicide is Deborah Palfrey.
Aw, c'mon, Ken, have you read the entire Mike Connel situation?
It's totally naive to believe that people aren't killed for/in politics. it happens all the time all over the world....do you REALLY think NO American would ever do such a thing??:ro lleyes:
They do. And the perpetrators love it when the allegations are all dismissed as a "whacko conspiracy theories".....isn't that convenient?
I knew some of the players in the Bunch case and that was definately a suicide.
Sorry, Raggy, but I have no idea what that has to do with my post....
but
ONE instance is NOT proof that no murders occur......and knowing the players doesn't mean you(or anyone) knows ALL the players.
I was agreeing with Balfour, whom you quoted and was responding to. I'm not going to go into details, but I do know more about the case than I'd admit to on here. Sorry, but I can't belive ALL the deaths were murders.
Sorry, Raggy, but I have no idea what that has to do with my post....
but
ONE instance is NOT proof that no murders occur......and knowing the players doesn't mean you(or anyone) knows ALL the players.
Of course not, but it does show either:
A) A VERY POOR investigation (on the part of those making the conspiracy claims) into the actual facts of the case - and thus bringing into question just how well (or poorly) the OTHER such cases have been vetted.
OR
B) A deliberate use of information which the authors KNOW to be false - thus calling into question their basic honesty.
If there are cases (or even a single case) which is pretty clearly false, then one or the other (or BOTH) of those is true.
Personally, I suspect that (like the Clinton "Hit List") the more you look into this list to actually verify the data, the more you'll find the cases dropping off because they don't pass muster. The problem is, as with any rumor, no one reading the list takes the time (or in truth has the resources) to actually re-verify the real facts (at most, they'll read some more on the web - usually posted by other folks who have simply bought into the theory but have no real personal insight themselves) - and that's EXACTLY what the folks behind such lists are counting on.
If there was really any truth to it, don't you think some hot shot ambitious prosecutor would be pursuing the overall case?
Come on, use a little common sense.
Ken
Last edited by LordBalfor; 03-13-2009 at 10:16 AM..
Aw, c'mon, Ken, have you read the entire Mike Connel situation?
No I haven't but clearly you haven't either.
The fact is, ANYONE can make a case for ANYTHING quite easily by simply being selective with the data they choose to select (case in point - Bush's case against Iraq) - and it happens ALL THE TIME on the web.
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Originally Posted by Who?Me?!
It's totally naive to believe that people aren't killed for/in politics. it happens all the time all over the world....do you REALLY think NO American would ever do such a thing??:ro lleyes:
They do. And the perpetrators love it when the allegations are all dismissed as a "whacko conspiracy theories".....isn't that convenient?
Maybe they do, but the fact that it MAY happen in SOME CASES doesn't mean that it DID HAPPEN in THIS CASE.
That's just faulty logic.
"
Like the "Clinton Death List" this thing smells - and sets off my Built-in Automatic Cr*p Detector" like crazy.
Ken
Last edited by LordBalfor; 03-13-2009 at 11:44 AM..
I guess Bush didnt have to worry about silencing Vince Foster eh?
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