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Instead of answering my question or telling me differing ideas you make baseless acussations?
Anarchism has nothing to do with brutal, savage war. That is the job of government. Reference Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Rwanda, Somolia etc..
The World Wide Web was developed by the private sector, thank you very much. So was the agricultural revolution and industrial revolution.
P.S. You might want to research anarchism before you make you nonsensical claims. It's one thing to disagree. It's another to display ignorance.
This from the pro-anarchy guy who claims to be so knowledgeable yet be totally oblivious to the FACT that DARPA had a major role in the creation of the internet, not to mention CERN's role for that of the world wide web.
The problem with all this is that the free market has provided all of this stuff. And at a cheaper cost with better results.
And the middle class was clearly created by the private sector. To suggest otherwise is plain ignorant.
very true, the guilded billionaires, those who weren't in the Leisure class created the middle class, if it weren't for them, the middle class would not exist. that's America for ya. created around the beginning of the 20th century, dissolving the guilded era, when the industrial revolution began. they needed alot of workers, but they could not enslave them since they were in the Northeast and the South was SOL when it came to their economy.
This from the pro-anarchy guy who claims to be so knowledgeable yet be totally oblivious to the FACT that DARPA had a major role in the creation of the internet, not to mention CERN's role for that of the world wide web.
Man, you haven't changed from the Keynes thread.
I read thru the first 20 or 30 pages of the Internet history on here. Some of it was by government. Most of it by the private sector. Guess we are sorta even.
Page 11 (I think) mentions how important photography was to the development of the World Wide Web. Photography is a creation of the private sector.
During a recent interview with journalist Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, Cuban strongman emeritus Fidel Castro issued a surprising statement about the communist nation’s economy: "The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore."
LOLs.
Who is advocating for Communism??? " Democracy - Not "The Free Market" is the title of the thread, so not only didn't you read the link before you posted a response, you din't even read the title.
From the link...
Thomas Jefferson pointed out, in an 1816 letter to William H. Crawford, "Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association." He also pointed out in that letter that some people - and businesses - would prefer that government not play referee to the game of business, not fix rules that protect labor or provide for the protection of the commons and the public good.
We must, Jefferson wrote to Crawford, "...say to all [such] individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens [like corporations], on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."
Most of the Founders advocated - and all ultimately passed - tariffs to protect domestic industries and workers. Seventy years later, Abraham Lincoln actively stood up for the right for labor to organize, intervening in several strikes to stop corporations and local governments from using hired goon squads to beat and murder strikers.
So according to you, Jefferson and Lincoln were Communist.
If there's no such thing as a free market then what caused this ugly long recession?
Apparently the government. Then we need less government and a bit more free market.
If there's no such thing as a free market then what caused this ugly long recession?
Apparently the government. Then we need less government and a bit more free market.
Why do people respond to a thread without reading the link???
1. There is no such thing as a "free market."
2. The "middle class" is the creation of government intervention in the marketplace, and won't exist without it (as millions of Americans and Europeans are discovering).
The conservative belief in "free markets" is a bit like the Catholic Church's insistence that the Earth was at the center of the Solar System in the Twelfth Century. It's widely believed by those in power, those who challenge it are branded heretics and ridiculed, and it is wrong.
In actual fact, there is no such thing as a "free market." Markets are the creation of government.
Governments provide a stable currency to make markets possible. They provide a legal infrastructure and court systems to enforce the contracts that make markets possible. They provide educated workforces through public education, and those workers show up at their places of business after traveling on public roads, rails, or airways provided by government. Businesses that use the "free market" are protected by police and fire departments provided by government, and send their communications - from phone to fax to internet - over lines that follow public rights-of-way maintained and protected by government.
Wow, you're really naive... Do you even understand the sources you decide to run with?
Quote:
CommonDreams.org is a national nonprofit, progressive,nonpartisan citizens' organization founded in 1997 by political activists Craig Brown and his late wife, Lina Newhouser.
Nonpartisan huh...
None of what was written in that "assessment" holds any truth to what actually happened in history...
I read thru the first 20 or 30 pages of the Internet history on here. Some of it was by government. Most of it by the private sector. Guess we are sorta even.
Page 11 (I think) mentions how important photography was to the development of the World Wide Web. Photography is a creation of the private sector.
In actual fact, there is no such thing as a "free market." Markets are the creation of government.
There have been free markets in man's history. So your statement is flat out wrong. I agree, we don't have free markets today in the absolute sense because our bloated government has stepped in and imposed it's will. You can also have degrees of market freedom. Compared to 100 years ago, our markets are much less free today.
Markets are never created by government. They are frequently controlled by government and that's why we have such severe problems like the depression of the 1930s and the current mess that Obama keeps making worse.
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