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Old 04-15-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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How do you propose that the US round up and deport 12 million people? And please be specific regarding costs in terms of manpower and transportation costs.

What do you propose to do about the rights of native born citizens and have every right to remain in the U.S. but whose parents are illegal residents?

Deputize the untold numbers of volunteers waiting in the wings to do something, anything, to rid us of these leeches. It is a start.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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Deputize the untold numbers of volunteers waiting in the wings to do something, anything, to rid us of these leeches. It is a start.

and what about the 5million + american born children? Do they go back to their parents homeland until their 18th birthday then flood back into the states? Or do they stay here in this country at the expense of the federal government (foster care, welfare ect) until their 18th birthday? These may be some of the questions that ALL administrations have had to face.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:22 AM
 
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Deputize the untold numbers of volunteers waiting in the wings to do something, anything, to rid us of these leeches. It is a start.
Ok, I'll bite. Now you have a couple of thousand deputized "volunteers" who is going to train them, who is going to pay for the training, and then what are they going to do, go around town demanding ID of anyone that looks... non-white?

Then what?
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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How can we convince our Democrat Congress to see it our way? Is there any hope? I want to actually do something to stop it.
Well, if you really want people to take your views seriously then you can start by actually using their correct name instead of deliberately calling them by the wrong name. After that using actual logic and facts, instead of the ignorant and clueless ramblings you've used so far in this thread, then someone might take you seriously,
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Pa
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How do you propose that the US round up and deport 12 million people? And please be specific regarding costs in terms of manpower and transportation costs.

What do you propose to do about the rights of native born citizens and have every right to remain in the U.S. but whose parents are illegal residents?
As some suggested. Start by enforcing current laws. Impose huge fines upon anyone who knowingly hires an illegal. Crack down on landlords who rent to illegals. In short force them to self deport.
The option of rewarding them with amnesty has been tried and has only brought us to the current problem.
As for the anchor babies. The 14th amend. was written to protect the families of former slaves. It says nothing about children born of illegal parents on US soil.
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Here
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What's an "illegal?"

People who violate driving laws? People who modify their homes without getting the appropriate permit? People whose selective service registrations have lapsed? Please be more specific.
Stop playing dumb. You know exactly what the OP is talking about.
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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What's an "illegal?"

People who violate driving laws? People who modify their homes without getting the appropriate permit? People whose selective service registrations have lapsed? Please be more specific.
illegal |i(l)ˈlēgəl|
adjective
contrary to or forbidden by law, esp. criminal law : illegal drugs.
noun
an illegal immigrant.
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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What's an "illegal?"

People who violate driving laws? People who modify their homes without getting the appropriate permit? People whose selective service registrations have lapsed? Please be more specific.
illegal
adjective
illegal campaign contributions unlawful, illicit, illegitimate, criminal, felonious; unlicensed, unauthorized, unsanctioned; outlawed, banned, forbidden, prohibited, proscribed, taboo; contraband, black-market, bootleg; Law malfeasant; informal crooked, shady, sketchy. antonym lawful, legitimate.
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I just cant wait till we have another 13 million people on welfare. Im sooo excited!!!!
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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As some suggested. Start by enforcing current laws. Impose huge fines upon anyone who knowingly hires an illegal. Crack down on landlords who rent to illegals. In short force them to self deport.
The option of rewarding them with amnesty has been tried and has only brought us to the current problem.
As for the anchor babies. The 14th amend. was written to protect the families of former slaves. It says nothing about children born of illegal parents on US soil.
I wouldn't suggest taking away citizenship from any anchor babies here now. Deport the parents...give them the option of taking their children who are citizens with them or having them stay with family or friends in the US. Then, change the law to prohibit FUTURE anchor babies.

As far as the fines for hiring and renting to them, agree 100%.
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