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I'm sure I can't be the only person here who leans left (socially anyway) but favors the right of secession. Can I?
There are no good arguments against secession. The right of secession was taken for granted by all sides prior to the Civil War; there were even two serious agitations for northern secession, the first during the war of 1812, the second led by William Lloyd Garrison in the 1850s. The claim that the Civil War "settled" the issue is fraudulent in two ways: first, because the "rebellion" was only suppressed after federal property was attacked; second, because "I'll shoot you" is not a legal riposte.
That is the sort of thuggery that usually characterizes the right, and it's revolting to see liberals imitating it.
It's also incredible to imagine liberals wanting to keep reactionaries and nuts in the United States. Can you please explain what we get out of it that outweighs having to keep all the creationist loony-toons, Armageddon-forecasters and other rabble?
*yawn*
Someone who proudly proclaims they are French Canadian, arrogantly recommending the partitioning of the States to suit their elitist sensibilities?
*yawn*
Someone who proudly proclaims they are French Canadian, arrogantly recommending the partitioning of the States to suit their elitist sensibilities?
Er, I'm an American of French-Canadian descent. Not sure why that was unclear, or what it has to do with the price of tea.
I'm not "recommending" the "partitioning" of the states by some outside authority, but rather the peaceful separation of states that want to separate.
You can call me elitist all day; I am, and proudly so. To find someone who hates southern yokels more than I do you would have to dig up H.L. Mencken. No apologies for it. I don't want to be in a union with those clowns any more than they want to be in one with me. It's just like a really long, bad marriage.
I am for secession. I think the system is broken and not fixable.
We live in a society where gays don't have equal rights, where our "liberal" president keeps the power to spy and use warantless wiretapping on its citizens, there are claims that its business is as usual down in Gitmo and soon to be in Bagram, escalating two more wars in the Middle East without an exit strategy--costing resources and American lives--just to continue our imperialism, where there is not one ounce of fiscal responsibility and accountability among our many of our politicians, where our Congress is more corrupt than corporations, where we don't have control over the value of our dollar, politics of fear being used, and the current administration invoking "state secret" privileges.
I am sick of this ****, but I guess some liberals are not.
Secession for ethnic minorities forced together by imperial conquest, ok. Secession because you don't like the democratic process... childish. What's next, you don't like the policies supported by the northern part of the your state, the west side of you town, the east side of your block is secession going to be the answer to your problem? Why not just mindless self-destruct into anarchy.
Er, I'm an American of French-Canadian descent. Not sure why that was unclear, or what it has to do with the price of tea.
I'm not "recommending" the "partitioning" of the states by some outside authority, but rather the peaceful separation of states that want to separate.
You can call me elitist all day; I am, and proudly so. To find someone who hates southern yokels more than I do you would have to dig up H.L. Mencken. No apologies for it. I don't want to be in a union with those clowns any more than they want to be in one with me. It's just like a really long, bad marriage.
That is a provocative thought. IMHO it might work until secessionists realized that they would be the ones picking cotton, picking tobacco, riding
herd or the fences on a large ranch. They'd be advertising for illegal immigrants after one day!
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