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how is it possible for someone to post something so stupid? oh yeah....look at the username.
How was what I posted stupid?
Back up your claim and tell me.
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Originally Posted by msconnie73
WHAT????!!!!
You know it. Most Christian (and you said yourself) feel this need to tell people. Maybe the professor got sick of it. It could be possible. They just dont know how to leave people alone if they dont want to hear about it.
Be careful what you read. There absolutely has to be more to the story. The school cannot and would not suspend someone just for praying. That has repeatedly been held constitutional. The issue is more about how they were doing it. Neither you nor I know the whole story.
I am agnositc and of course you or anyone else can pray and I don't care if you do. What you can't be is disruptive.
And you know this how...by ESP, or something?
How do you know the school would not suspend someone, just for praying? That sounds like an assumption to me. Is prayer a "disruptive behavior"? Maybe, in their minds, it is. Even you admit we don't know the whole story...and I agree on that point...
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Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice
How was what I posted stupid?
Back up your claim and tell me.
You know it. Most Christian (and you said yourself) feel this need to tell people. Maybe the professor got sick of it. It could be possible. They just dont know how to leave people alone if they dont want to hear about it.
And you are making the assumption that the ailing professor did not wish to be prayed over? The article was clear that it was another professor that had an issue with the praying, not the ailing professor. Contrary to the beliefs of many anti-Christian extremists, many Americans do appreciate having someone pray over them even if they are non-practicing Christians. I know several folks who were non-Christians who personally asked me to pray for them or who were open to prayer when I offered it.
You realize that you are confusing witnessing with prayer, right? If a Christian is witnessing (or sharing) to a non-Christian and the non-Christian expresses that they do not wish to hear the message, then the Christian should respect that person's wishes and cease from witnessing to them (most Christians do that BTW). Regarding prayer, I and other Christians would not forcefully start praying with someone without their consent. It's hard to have meaningful prayer with someone if they are not a willing participant.
How is praying with an ill instructor constitute disruptive behavior?
Apparently it was in a shared office, so disruptive to the other people using the office.
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Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice
How was what I posted stupid?
Back up your claim and tell me.
You know it. Most Christian (and you said yourself) feel this need to tell people. Maybe the professor got sick of it. It could be possible. They just dont know how to leave people alone if they dont want to hear about it.
It wasn't stupid, but it was presumptuous to say "I am sure. . . "
I will say, the OP is also presumptuous, b/c even the article says the students allege, whereas the OP says the students were suspended for praying.
And you know this how...by ESP, or something?
How do you know the school would not suspend someone, just for praying? That sounds like an assumption to me. Is prayer a "disruptive behavior"? Maybe, in their minds, it is. Even you admit we don't know the whole story...and I agree on that point...
Bud
Ok I will give you that I worded that wrong and you are right I don't know for sure that they would not suspend. People screw up all the time and IF the school suspended them for nondisruptive praying, well they are in the wrong and it is not legal. If they were praying out loud and had been asked several times to stop by other professors in the office, well that would be viewed as disruptive.
Look, we all know that stories are twisted all the time to make one party or the other out to be the bad guy. It just depends on who the author is.
You can't go by just one article, any sane or reasonable person would want all the facts before making a judgement call.
I never been to a college where instructors share offices. Maybe teacher's assistants, but not instructors.
It seems like the professor who was also praying, did not get into trouble. People are allowed to prayer, but there is insufficient information regarding the disruptive behavior.
It would have to be really disruptive to warrant a suspension, such as being told numerous times and praying loudly.
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