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I do but it's not the be all end all in my life. Just as many gays feel they need to be activists from one degree to another (from merely leading a "good" life to shouting down every heterosexual who doesn't praise homosexuality), I feel a need to be an activist to a certain degree in making it obvious that homosexuality is an abornmality and while tolerance is necessary, obeisance to gay agendas and acceptance of gays is not tolerance.
I just don't understand what a gay agenda is. I am gay but I certainly don't have a collective agenda, though all citizens have an agenda to some degree or another, I don't attribute my opinions to an 'agenda," but I do ask to be treated equally as everyone else. As a woman prior to suffrage wasn't granted equal right as to a black during slavery. Even if you believe i'm abnormal, why shouldn't I be able to be treated like an equal in every definition of the word. I don't need your tolerance or obeisance, I just need equal rights. If i want to marry another consenting human being why shouldn't the state or nation that i reside in grant it? Aside from the tired a marriage is between a man and a woman argument. A marriage is not necessarily rooted in religion and religion would be irrelevant to the state sanctioning a marriage to any consenting adults anyway.
What I find ironic, is that typically the heterosexual who wants to deny gay marriage because its coveted to a man and woman, they have the typical belief that homosexuals are promicuous and unfaithful.
I just don't understand what a gay agenda is. I am gay and all I ask is to be treated equally as everyone else. Even if you believe i'm abnormal, why shouldn't I be able to be treated like an equal in every definition of the word. I don't need your tolerance or obeisance, I just need equal rights. If i want to marry another consenting human being why shouldn't the state or nation that i reside in grant it. A marriage is not necessarily rooted in religion and religion would be irrelevant to the state sanctioning a marriage to any consenting adults.
Some people feel more comfortable when there are solid boundaries between what they believe to be right and wrong. I'm not one of them, but my guess is that Omahabound is, and in a way, that's okay with me. We need people in the world who help maintain order in society. I don't think I agree with some of his views, but I think I understand where they're coming from.
Some people feel more comfortable when there are solid boundaries between what they believe to be right and wrong. I'm not one of them, but my guess is that Omahabound is, and in a way, that's okay with me. We need people in the world who help maintain order in society. I don't think I agree with some of his views, but I think I understand where they're coming from.
Well, I'm just fortunate to live in a country where the boundaries between right and wrong are more maleable, yet we are still a stable democracy. The sky isn't falling here because we have state sanctioned gay marriage, and their is still law and order. I predict in the next 20 years the majority of U.S States will have state sanctioned gay marriage and I can't wait for that day.
Well, I'm just fortunate to live in a country where the boundaries between right and wrong are more maleable, yet we are still a stable democracy. The sky isn't falling here because we have state sanctioned gay marriage, and their is still law and order. I predict in the next 20 years the majority of U.S States will have state sanctioned gay marriage and I can't wait for that day.
Yeah, I know. Well, America has always been a contradiction, combining an outlaw mentality while at the same time, having some strict rules about law and order, right and wrong.
I agree with you about the majority of states having same-sex marriage in the near future, but I'm even more optimistic. I think the majority will have it within the next 10 years, not 20.
Homosexuality isn't a problem in and of itself. It's the reaction some people have to it that causes problems. Most people in America don't equate homosexuality with cancer or blindness. I understand your argument, however.
Pedophilia terribly high among gays. AIDS is astronomical among gay men. Behavior, behavior, behavior.
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This will tick some people off, but I can certainly see a time when heterosexuality can be guaranteed in a newborn by monitoring and manipulating hormonal levels in a mother's womb.
I haven't seen conclusive scientific evidence that it's hormones.
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As for "sometimes leading to unacceptable behavior", well, that could be said about anybody.
Sometimes, yes. The religious are just as culpable in bad behaviors but gay men have an absurd predeliction with certain sexual behaviors.
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True, but your earlier argument was that homosexuality is not normal because it doesn't lead to reproduction. Yes, gays could reproduce if they chose to, but nature designed them so that it's unlikely that will happen.
Not completely. Tab A should fit in Slot B not Slot C. And other reasons.
No matter how gays feel like behaving, their organs are still designed to work male --> female. And whether there are "gay" animals, man has intelligence to guide him out of doing stupid stuff. Dogs eat their vomit and kitty biscuits from the litter box so I wouldn't use the animal defense.
Pedophilia terribly high among gays. AIDS is astronomical among gay men. Behavior, behavior, behavior.
Those aren't results of simply being gay. They are behaviors that people choose to engage in.
And it's not just behavior. Physiology plays a role.
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I haven't seen conclusive scientific evidence that it's hormones.
No, it's not conclusive, but there's certainly a lot of evidence that points in that direction. I'm not sure what you're suggesting - that people choose their sexual orientation?
Sometimes, yes. The religious are just as culpable in bad behaviors but gay men have an absurd predeliction with certain sexual behaviors.
So? What some people choose to do sexually doesn't mean that everyone is doing it. I could say it's absurd that so many heterosexuals have abortions, but I don't do that because I understand that not all heterosexuals have abortions.
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Not completely. Tab A should fit in Slot B not Slot C. And other reasons.
I get the impression that you can't fathom the idea that, perhaps, nature didn't intend for everyone to reproduce.
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No matter how gays feel like behaving, their organs are still designed to work male --> female. And whether there are "gay" animals, man has intelligence to guide him out of doing stupid stuff. Dogs eat their vomit and kitty biscuits from the litter box so I wouldn't use the animal defense.
Animals do a lot of things that humans don't do, and vice versa. Intelligence has little to do with sexual orientation. If we're wired to have a particular orientation, intelligence isn't going to change that.
How lucky for you that you were born heterosexual and can so easily pass judgment on homosexuality. You don't understand sexual orientation, and, I guess, you have little interest in learning about it, but I'll keep trying.
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Pedophilia terribly high among gays. AIDS is astronomical among gay men. Behavior, behavior, behavior.
I haven't seen conclusive scientific evidence that it's hormones.
Sometimes, yes. The religious are just as culpable in bad behaviors but gay men have an absurd predeliction with certain sexual behaviors.
Not completely. Tab A should fit in Slot B not Slot C. And other reasons.
No matter how gays feel like behaving, their organs are still designed to work male --> female. And whether there are "gay" animals, man has intelligence to guide him out of doing stupid stuff. Dogs eat their vomit and kitty biscuits from the litter box so I wouldn't use the animal defense.
Trust me Tab A fits in slot C. How do you know so much about gay men and their predeliction with sexual behaviour? Personal experience? As for intelligence. Intelligence has no relation to breathing. Sexual compulsion has no relation to intelligence. It doesn't mean i should choose not to breath or choose not to have sex.
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