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Ben & Jerry's has been much better for the country than Teddy the drunk murderer. Really, what has Mass contributed to the American society besides electing idiots & fostering socialism? Your social medical scheme has sucked your economy dry. Your taxes are pushing your liberal losers into neighboring states where they immediately start into changing things into what they ran from.
Last thing good to come from Mass was back in the mid 1700's. If anything in New England should be let to rot & die its Massachu****s.
Umm I'll ship you a copy of a US history book. Pages 1-400 are basically about Massachusetts. you know that stuff about colonialism, the Revolutioary War, the Industrial Revolution, the Guilded Age, the creation of the 20th century economy. I know minor details compared to ice cream and cheddar cheese.
And who the hell would care about New England if MA suddenly didn't exist. CTers think they're NYers. Combined ME/NH/VT contribute basically the nation's maple syrup supply. And RI, well, Buddy Cianci is but one man.
As for the economy, our state is doing just fine. We're no longer in a recession, and have added the third highest number of private sectors jobs since January. So, anyone who wants to take potshots at MA, should get their facts straight first.
Anyway, I pointed out how the liberal policies of Massachusetts are bankrupting your state. Which is what the thread is about. Liberal policies in New England.
You come back with stereotypes. Good for you. Hope you feel better.
By the way my sister lived in Boston for 20 years. She is now in Duxbury. It's a nice place to visit for the one week of decent weather you get in July but.......
FYI, Ohio has more than twice as many Fortune 500 companies than Massachusetts. The unemployment rate in Ohio is at the national average. Columbus has so companies relocating from other states that they expect to add 20,000 jobs downtown in the next 5 years. Ohio State University is considered one of the best publics in the country. Cincinnati just completed buliding it's tallest skyscraper and is working on a couple more. Toledo has had 5 manufacturing comapnies relocate from Asia in the last year. Marietta just had a manufacturer relocate form Malaysia adding 500 jobs.......I could go on but you get the point. Not bad for a bunch uneducated, uncultured bumpkins from the MidWest.
Buh-Bye.
HAHA, no but I've been over Ohio-and I'm not impressed, you can keep your John Boners and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. What does Cleveland have to with music? Nothing, really, thought so.
Duxbury on the shores of the Atlantic, sun and beach, or Sandusky on the shores of Erie...ooo lets go to Cedar Point.
MA's unemployement is LESS than the national average at 9.2%. But yeah, Ohio-America's Most Average State.
The Liberal policies in New England, which this thread is about have made New England, the WEALTHIEST, HEALTHIEST, and SMARTEST region in the nation, and tops in the world-on par with western Europe. Should I stay here, my children will be smarter than their Scandinavian counterparts, earn a salary of about $60,000, and they'll live to be about 80. Yeah, those liberal policies really make life suck.
We have more personal freedoms here than most. Our governments aren't mandating bull****ty conservative moral laws everyday. We can do as we please. I was just in Cali-and it felt like a police state. Those of us who live here, are truly blessed, because, we can honestly say, that we are statistically better than the rest of the country. It's been that way for 400 years. Not bad, for a bunch of whiny socialist liberals.
You guys pay for OUR health care....and you get to live in a blessed nation founded by a bunch of whiny liberals from Massachusetts in the 1770s.
You're quite welcome.
You know that is ironic. First off, this country has older settlements in St Augustine and New Mexico than it does in Massachusetts. And Philadelphia was more important than Boston in the Revolution. Still is.
And you ever realize why we even have Thanksgiving? The government of Massachusetts was forcing everyone to share their crops with everyone else. It didn't take long for some people to realize they didn't have to worl all that hard. They could just eat their neighbors food.
This led to resentment by the people that did work. So they just stopped growing as much food. People began to starve. Finally, the governemnt of Massachusetts told people they could keep what they grew. Next harvest there was so much food they invited the Indians over for dinner.
The collectivists (liberal) policies were killing people. Let an individual do as they please (libertarian) and we had extreme wealth.
And 60,000 a year is kinda useless when you have to pay 6 or 7 hundred thousand for an average house.
And Cleveland has nothing to do with Rock and/or Roll? LOL.s Rock and/or Roll was invented in Cleveland. You're welcome world.
Umm I'll ship you a copy of a US history book. Pages 1-400 are basically about Massachusetts. you know that stuff about colonialism, the Revolutioary War, the Industrial Revolution, the Guilded Age, the creation of the 20th century economy. I know minor details compared to ice cream and cheddar cheese.
I know all about the revolution, 1700's remember. The industrial revolution was not centered in Mass & Mass had little if anything to do with its coming about. How ridiculous can you be?
Creation of the 20th century economy? Yeah sure, I guess in your mind we should call the country "The United states of Mass" Not for nothing but your state is going broke and our country is going broke, both largely due to the economic policies of the late 20th century. So, is it praise or blame you place at the feet of Mass?
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And who the hell would care about New England if MA suddenly didn't exist. CTers think they're NYers. Combined ME/NH/VT contribute basically the nation's maple syrup supply. And RI, well, Buddy Cianci is but one man.
Your arrogance is pretty telling. I live in CT & have my whole life. Never considered myself anything but a New Englander. ME, VT & NH all reflect the values & freedoms this country was founded to protect & preserve. MA & CT to a lesser degree have tossed those principles aside in the name of progress and suffered culturally. If you think big cities & entitlement programs more in tune with New England than farms & self sufficient people you truly are clueless. I suspect that rural Mass understands the cost of your states agenda, just as rural CT understands how so called progress strips people of identity & creates homelessness, poverty & everything that goes along with it.
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As for the economy, our state is doing just fine. We're no longer in a recession, and have added the third highest number of private sectors jobs since January. So, anyone who wants to take potshots at MA, should get their facts straight first.
Whopdie do. How much money did it cost the US to get your sad state out of a recession? Why, if your job creation is so meaningfull are people leaving the state in greater numbers than are coming? Why not adress how come, if liberalism is working there, you needed help at all?
Why is it there are any troubles in Mass at all if liberalism is so grand?
Why not adress the way you people embrace liberalism to the point that you will elect an irresponsible killer to office for decades?
Heres a fact, Mass, CT, RI, ME, VT & NH were all argriculturally based economies, New England itself historically was an agricultural center. Sure there were factories & manufactureing but they made up a small chunk of the whole. They still are largely rural with a few urban areas that are trying to redefine reality. If you dumped Boston & a couple other cities into the sea Mass would be much better off. Same goes for CT. There is no question about it. Urban areas are a drain on the economy & only benefit those living there. If you are alive you benefit from rural America wherever you are. In contrast, if you are alive in America you pay higher taxes to support urban areas, wherever you are. Cities cost us in too many ways to count, are a drain on the economy & give nothing back.
You guys pay for OUR health care....and you get to live in a blessed nation founded by a bunch of whiny liberals from Massachusetts in the 1770s.
You're quite welcome.
Read those history books yourself. If the founders were liberal they would have been looking to the King for help. Many people were wanting to stick with England and by today's standards the loyalists would be liberals.
The founders almost to a man were conservative Christians and if alive today would be pretty disgusted by what they found in MA. You do not in any way shape or form represent the principles this country was founded upon. Nobody with any self respect would want everyone to foot their bills as you seem so proud of.
Liberals are a dime a dozen. Kerry wasn't made fun of because he was a liberal. He was made fun of because he was an elitist (“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” John Kerry) trying to pass himself off as smart (he got worse grades than Bush in college - and in political science and history - D's), wooden wind surfing snob, living off his rich wife's fortune and because of the hippie crap he pulled after he got back from Viet Nam.
It was the libertarian politics of the 19th century and early 20th that made New England wealthy. The region is a blackhole as far as jobs go now. Nearly all the great mills of New England that made the region wealthy are empty. The arms manufacturers were among the last holdouts but are leaving a well. A large portion of New England's early wealth was based on the whaling industry, which is long gone. MA is nowhere close to a free state today, it's a nanny state that regulates everything everyone does. It wasn't the center of the universe in the colonial days either. People fled MA en masse for greater freedom in CT and RI in the 17th century. MA had next to no supplies when the Revolution broke out, the Revolution would have been lost by MA if not for the captured arms and ammunition from Fort Ticonderoga, captured by the Green Mountain Boys.
I'd like to see what those city people in Boston eat if those "desolate cornfield" states cut off the food supply.
Massachusetts is the 5th best state to do buisiness in. And the only one state in the NE to rank top 10. So you take a guess what you can do with these stats.
Chief Executive says its #47
US Best and Worst States For Business - 2009, CHIEF EXECUTIVE (http://www.chiefexecutive.net/media/usbestandworststates/2009/ - broken link)
Most of the other random sites put in around those numbers, where exactly did you get your stats?
Really guys, this isn't hard and I could do this all day. Fact is that high taxes, high social support networks, high cost of living, all lead to higher costs of doing business.
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