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Actually American foreign policy has been dedicated to installing, retaining or reinstalling corporate favoring dictators all over the world. Ortega had a long list to work from.
BTW - the Bay of Pigs was a failed PRIVATE invasion of a sovereign nation that we should have never supported covertly or overtly. Battista and the US Mob lost. That was a good thing. Our embargo was completely unnecessary. We should have had open relations with Cuba since day one of the Revolution.
Pretty interesting that the very website that the op hyperlinks to, is full of comments calling also calling this crook and liar, exactly what he is!!!!
I believe in right and wrong more than party affiliation, so it's hard to believe that people will deny that this man has done more to harm this country and it's people possibly more than Pres. Bush, himself!!
At last week’s Summit of the Americas, President Obama acquiesced to a 50-minute attack on America as terroristic, expansionist, and interventionist from Nicaraguan president Daniel Ortega. His response to Ortega’s denunciation of our effort to free Cuba from Castro’s dictatorship was that he shouldn’t be blamed “for things that happened when I was three months old.” Blamed? Hundreds of men, including Americans, bravely fought and died for Cuba’s freedom, heeding the call from newly elected president John F. Kennedy. But last week, even as American soldiers sacrificed blood in Afghanistan and Iraq to defend liberty, President Obama shrank from defending liberty here in the Americas.
In his first press interview as president, he confessed to Arabic television that America had “dictated” to other nations. No, Mr. President, America has fought to free other nations from dictators. And in Strasbourg, the president further claimed that America has “showed arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.” London’s Daily Telegraph observed that President Obama “went further than any United States president in history in criticizing his own country’s action while standing on foreign soil.” Of course, it was not just the Daily Telegraph that was listening: People around the world who yearn for freedom, who count on America’s resolve and support, heard him as well. He was heard in China, in Tibet, in Sudan, in Burma, and, yes, in Cuba.
You're very unhappy.
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He continues to embarrass the US everytime he opens his mouth.
It's just a good thing his predecessor wasn't like that.
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At last week’s Summit of the Americas, President Obama acquiesced to a 50-minute attack on America as terroristic, expansionist, and interventionist from Nicaraguan president Daniel Ortega. His response to Ortega’s denunciation of our effort to free Cuba from Castro’s dictatorship was that he shouldn’t be blamed “for things that happened when I was three months old.” Blamed? Hundreds of men, including Americans, bravely fought and died for Cuba’s freedom, heeding the call from newly elected president John F. Kennedy. But last week, even as American soldiers sacrificed blood in Afghanistan and Iraq to defend liberty, President Obama shrank from defending liberty here in the Americas.
A bit one sided to mention Kennedy's call without also mentioning his failure to provide air cover for those who answered that call, eh?
And just WHERE does the Constitution task the US government with fighting for the freedom of other countries?
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Exactly, the United States has the right to fight for freedom, and democracy and all that, in it's territory only, what happens in the rest of the world shouldn't be her business unless it directly affects the USA, any other argument to justify foreign intervention is just part of the world savior complex.
And just WHERE does the Constitution task the US government with fighting for the freedom of other countries?
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Exactly, the United States has the right to fight for freedom, and democracy and all that, in it's territory only, what happens in the rest of the world shouldn't be her business unless it directly affects the USA, any other argument to justify foreign intervention is just part of the world savior complex.
None of this really matters. We don't invade or pressure third world nations for "freedom" or any other lofty, idealistic goal. We invade them so we can set up governments that will allow our economic exploitation.
Free trade, at all costs, and the hemispheric homogenization of wages/salaries, job benefits (or lack thereof), and living standards for the working and/or middle classes is the goal of BOTH Dems and Repubs and their multinational corporation cohorts!!!
That is very true and we have alot to apologize for over the past 8 years.
Let's start with the Kurds in Iraq who were gassed by Saddam. You'll know 'em when you see them because they are covered with scars and are blind. Maybe then we could visit the relatives of Iraqis who were arrested and never seen again. After that we could go see the women who were pulled off the streets by Saddam's brats and brutally raped, if we can find any that are still alive. Let's not forget to give a special apology to all those reporters who had their tongues cut off because they printed stories of which the Baath Party didn't approve, and the citizens who were tortured for real and allowed to return home with body parts missing as an example for all to see of what happens to people who get a bad report by their neighbors, per Baath Party policy. Yes we should tell the whole world how truly sorry we are that we interfered with a sovereign nation's private affairs.
A bit one sided to mention Kennedy's call without also mentioning his failure to provide air cover for those who answered that call, eh?
And just WHERE does the Constitution task the US government with fighting for the freedom of other countries?
Are you saying we should have stayed out of WW1 and WW2? The Constitution is silent on the issue of reasons to go to war. It does provide a clear policy on declairing war. This is to be done only by the Congress as was the case. So what's your point? Excepting waterboarding to three terrorists, Is BHO doing anything differently today than GWB was doing? Think before you answer.
Are you saying we should have stayed out of WW1 and WW2? The Constitution is silent on the issue of reasons to go to war. It does provide a clear policy on declairing war. This is to be done only by the Congress as was the case. So what's your point? Excepting waterboarding to three terrorists, Is BHO doing anything differently today than GWB was doing? Think before you answer.
Comparing WWI and WWII with the invasion of IRAQ is like comparing a high school baseball game with the World Series!
We were actually attacked on Dec. 7, 1941 by a military force from a sovereign nation. Our ally and trading partner, the UK, was standing essentially alone against the most powerful military dictatorship the world had ever seen. We waited it out until we had to act and Roosevelt asked Congress to actually declare war and young people of America across all spectrums were actually drafted to go defend our nation against an actual enemy who posed a true threat!!!
WWI was in it's fourth year by the time we got involved. And our shipping lanes were being threatened by the Germans and once again we had to support a true alliance.
Today our government NEVER actually declares war. And the way the Iraq/Afghan ops were funded under the Bush Admin. was insidious.
The all-volunteer military today is full of disaffected Rust Belt unemployed, Latinos who wanna avoid gang culture and/or get citizenship, Neo-Cons who actually believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, frat-boy types who wanna prove their manhood, people who want a free ride to college, etc...
NATO is a joke. We can't defeat a loose coalition of Third-World mountain dwelling fanatics and mujahadeen in 7 years??? In WWII it would have taken about 7 months!!
Truth is the miltary brass and politicians from military/DOD heavy areas don't want to really end this "War on Terror". It takes the place of the Cold War. DOD/Pentagon Industry is taking the place of manufacturing and energy sector jobs that we should have.
All we have accomplished in Iraq is getting some oil contracts secured and inciting a religious civil war!
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--they are ready to **** on his head. Could be another Obama tactic, say this and then do a 360 to do that. He may be smart but he is not unable to be figured out. Obama has never tamed his "Socrates" minotaur--of that, I am sure. So if one wanted to break Obama or expose his weakness, log on and into his minotaur--only a very few people have the capacity to conquor or undue their minotaur--furtunatley for Obama's enemies, Obama never conquered his minotaur. Research his teen years, I will think you will find "it" there waiting. Just resurface that or push that minotaur back into face again--he'll take the bait, they always do--in secret, in the dark when no one is looking.
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