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Well the upside to a full blown trial is all of the information should/will come out. That info will include what was done and why and when/how much.
If after reviewing all the evidence it is shown to a JURY that what was done needed to be done then so be it. If it's shown that someone was put through that for no reason or gain then the JURY will decide what is to be done.
I fully support playing music all the time,making 'em cold and uncomfortable and yes, even waterboarding if it will save lives but it cannot be used without oversight. You have to lay some responsability on the terrorists as they're fully aware of what they signed up for.
I think the point is that they stand trial. Anything beyond that is just vengence. That isn't the role of Law.
Yes lets put them all on trial, let tie our hands behind our back so that we can't get any information from trrrorists, maybe if we serve them icecream and cake they will give up information.
I'll say this, We have always used methods that are not nice to get info from our enemies, it may not be nice but it works, i think releasing info and condeming ourselves for these methods is insane.
Why Torture Doesn't Work
By Brigader General David R. Irvine
What I find suspect is that many techiniques had sexual and sadistic overtones. Bush has a history since childhood of having sadistic tendencies. Cheney is just not even human let alone humane. These chickenhawks got ther jollies watching other people suffer.
If anyone has not seen "Torturing Democracy" in its entirety, you need to.
It would only further divide the country. Really, it is best to let it go. This isn't a hill worth dying over.
You're saying that the truth shall be more divisive than "two sides" getting away with crimes? I think "letting it go" is the dumbest idea of the century. Why investigate anything then? It seems to me you think the US is only capable of having two sides and that those two sides will always oppose each other. Is party allegiance hereditary and immutable?
My view is that the truth is both sides are really the SAME side and if we do any kind of investigation, we'll clearly see how badly we've been duped. BOTH parties are guilty of allowing our reputation be dismantled on the world stage. BOTH sides lie through their teeth to keep up the illusion that they don't collude with each other.
I WANT an investigation and I don't care who goes to jail or what the consequences are. The TRUTH is more important than party loyalty or the continuation of our current government. My hope is NEITHER party survives and the PEOPLE get their government back.
What I find suspect is that many techiniques had sexual and sadistic overtones. Bush has a history since childhood of having sadistic tendencies. Cheney is just not even human let alone humane. These chickenhawks got ther jollies watching other people suffer.
If anyone has not seen "Torturing Democracy" in its entirety, you need to.
Excuse me for saying so, but Ghandi tactics are not acceptable here. Atrocities were committed in our name and "just letting it go" is not an honorable, truthful or dutiful option. We cannot have this as part of a foundation for rebuilding our nation and respect for ourselves. George Washington was determined to try and punish any soldier that went against his no torture policy, so why should we not hold ourselves to the same moral compass?
I hope you meant to say "Alleged atrocities" since none have been proven at this point have they?
I had not read that... is that correct? They certainly don't have the power to implement the torture... that lies with the executive branch... but did they specifically approve waterboarding and the other torture techniques?
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