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Old 04-24-2009, 09:15 AM
 
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I call BS on this... having multiple wives/husbands mean not mean that the only result is others have to have sex with children It means that there are more single adult. Given todays high single population I wonder if we'd even notice..
Pull your head out of the sand and look at the available data and from the victims themselves.
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Pedophilia is an inevitable consequence of polygamy. Think about it. There are roughly equal numbers of men and women in a given population. (Statistically, there are slightly more women, but that's only because women have a longer life expectancy than men; among young people, the proportion is almost a perfect 50:50.) When you have polygamy, however, one man marries several women -- thus creating a shortage of wives. Consequently, women in polygamous societies are forced into marriage at increasingly younger ages.
Whoever said that polygamy was only one man marrying multiple women?

It works both ways, you know.

Again: Children will never be allowed to be wed nor will child molestation will be made legal. They cannot consent and will never be able to have the capacity to consent. Just because a few cults did polygamy one way does not meant that everyone will do polygamy exactly like that.

As long as all parties can legally consent, and have no problems with the arrangement, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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Pull your head out of the sand and look at the available data and from the victims themselves.
You show me ANY data which shows that people will resort to raping little children when they dont have access to consenting adults. If that was true, we'd have massive rapes going on at summer camps..
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Whoever said that polygamy was only one man marrying multiple women? It works both ways, you know.
The overwhelming majority of polygamous societies are polygynous.

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Again: Children will never be allowed to be wed nor will child molestation will be made legal. They cannot consent and will never be able to have the capacity to consent. Just because a few cults did polygamy one way does not meant that everyone will do polygamy exactly like that.
Actually, most societies where polygamy is practiced do it like that. They either define the term "child" in a way that permits a 9-year-old to marry or empower the guardian to consent for the minor. After all, there is precedent: underage marriage is already permitted to some extent with parental consent. Your principles are good in theory: but as pressure for more wives mounts, they will be chipped away, slowly, but surely.

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As long as all parties can legally consent, and have no problems with the arrangement, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
There is a fundamental difference between allowing consenting adults to live in whatever arrangement they desire, on the one hand -- and on the other, giving that arrangement official, legal recognition as formal marriage. Institutionalizing polygamy takes it out of the private context; polygamy is likely to cause numerous societal problems, and thus, should not be recognized.
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:20 AM
 
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Actually, most societies where polygamy is practiced do it like that.
Incorrect, a few in the past have practiced it, but not "most"..
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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You can try to spin and whitewash it all you want to but the fact of the matter is polygamy is polygamy.
You cannot say to one group your ok because there are no children involved and to the groups that have kids say nope you cannot practice it because of the kids.
More often than not children and women are victims of polygamy.

Um yeah you can. If a polygamist does something with a child, its a crime, exactly the same as a monogomist. You are not saying to the second group, "You cant practice polygamy", you are saying "you cannot take liberties with a demographic that has not reached the age of consent". Stop using fallacy as a basis of your argument.

There is absolutely no logical reason why multiple consenting adults should not be allowed to marry. None.
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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Oh yeah raping/incest young girls is great! Casting young boys out of the compounds because they pose a threat for the attentions of the young girls so the old men can have them.
Keeping the girls and women basically illiterate and uneducated so they can control them is great too right


That is only one type of polygamous relationship. Clearly there are a number of problems with that situation. There is no problem with three or more willing adults getting married.
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:27 AM
 
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Incorrect, a few in the past have practiced it, but not "most"..
Can you identify some that don't?
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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You can try to spin and whitewash it all you want to but the fact of the matter is polygamy is polygamy.
You cannot say to one group your ok because there are no children involved and to the groups that have kids say nope you cannot practice it because of the kids.
More often than not children and women are victims of polygamy.


Using your logic I can say sex is sex...you can't say sex with a 10 year old is wrong cause kids are involved yet sex between two married 28 year olds is okay because no kids are involved. ....Clearly the factors around the situation DO matter.
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:34 AM
 
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Can you identify some that don't?
I dont travel in those circles in order to make unfounded accusations that individuals are breaking the law. I dont need to list ones that arent, the evidence is on those that make the accusation that "most" are to prove their accusations are true.

In this country its innocent until proven guilty, and those found guilty have been put on trial and gone to jail.
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