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Old 04-26-2009, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Harrisonville
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Declaring an emergency is not taking action to stop or slow this thing from coming into the country nor are they stopping it from being spread.

They are "monitoring". They are allowing it to be brought in right now as we speak, there are no health checks being done on people coming in from Mexico where there have been many deaths. None.

And anyone can come directly from the area of the epidemic to any part of the USA they choose. Kids from Mexico cross the border every morning -- even with Mexican schools shut down and go to schools on the USA side.

Declaring an emergency and nothing but that isn't going to slow the spread of this.

Given the number of times we have all heard posters on CD denounce discussion of plans for a world pandemic as "alarmist", what would in your view be the appropriate action (at this stage of things)?

 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by malamute View Post
Declaring an emergency is not taking action to stop or slow this thing from coming into the country nor are they stopping it from being spread.

They are "monitoring". They are allowing it to be brought in right now as we speak, there are no health checks being done on people coming in from Mexico where there have been many deaths. None.

And anyone can come directly from the area of the epidemic to any part of the USA they choose. Kids from Mexico cross the border every morning -- even with Mexican schools shut down and go to schools on the USA side.

Declaring an emergency and nothing but that isn't going to slow the spread of this.

If we don't want to be exposed to potential killer viruses, perhaps we should repeal NAFTA and stop the U.S. agribusiness criminals from offshoring their disgusting, inhumane, and environmentally destructive practices to Mexico? Sorry, THIS nightmare is the fault of criminal American business practices. And if we don't shut these sob's down, you can bet that even bigger threats await us in the future.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:05 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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Originally Posted by malamute View Post
Declaring an emergency is not taking action to stop or slow this thing from coming into the country nor are they stopping it from being spread.

They are "monitoring". They are allowing it to be brought in right now as we speak, there are no health checks being done on people coming in from Mexico where there have been many deaths. None.

And anyone can come directly from the area of the epidemic to any part of the USA they choose. Kids from Mexico cross the border every morning -- even with Mexican schools shut down and go to schools on the USA side.

Declaring an emergency and nothing but that isn't going to slow the spread of this.
With 20 confirmed cases, and no deaths, there is absolutely no need to halt travel between countries as yet. What do you want...Obama to shut down airports, causing a nation-wide panic? Over 20 cases of non-lethal flu?

Get a grip, man. If the situation warrants further action, we'll have it. Until then, there's absolutely no need to cause a mass panic among the country's 300 million residents because 20 people contracted a strain of flu that has caused deaths in a country (not ours) where people are dying from said strain because they don't have proper access to adequate healthcare.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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With still only 20 cases in the USA and no deaths, now would be the time to prevent many more cases from coming over and being spread.

Why will waiting until it's completely out of control be such a great thing to do?
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:14 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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With still only 20 cases in the USA and no deaths, now would be the time to prevent many more cases from coming over and being spread.

Why will waiting until it's completely out of control be such a great thing to do?
Who says it's going to get out of control? (And by out of control, I mean the spread and virulency of the virus, not the media attention, which is already out of control, imo).
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Even your post doesn't say what you said it did.
It said exactly what I said it did.

I made no comment, just reported the news (i.e. provided a title and a link).

What could go wrong?
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:15 PM
 
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Given the number of times we have all heard posters on CD denounce discussion of plans for a world pandemic as "alarmist", what would in your view be the appropriate action (at this stage of things)?
Same things the liberals thought Reagan should have done in the early days of HIV. Limit the spread of it. Not ignore it.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:17 PM
 
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Who says it's going to get out of control? (And by out of control, I mean the spread and virulency of the virus, not the media attention, which is already out of control, imo).
Maybe it won't, maybe it will -- but certainly Obama's administration is making no effort to stop it from taking hold in this country.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Harrisonville
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Same things the liberals thought Reagan should have done in the early days of HIV. Limit the spread of it. Not ignore it.

I won't argue with that. The HIV epidemic began in one spot and spread slowly, so that would have been possible in that case. That isn't the case with this, although I agree closing the borders or banning international travel might have some effect. If you look at the financial journals though you see people already fear this will slow the economy further and are adjusting their positions accordingly. That may be part of the thinking behind no radical action at this point. The conservative actions they are taking, like releasing strategic reserves of antivirals do make sense from the medical standpoint.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Words fail that you could even pretend for effect that you would be happy ANYONE would die, nevermind The President of the US.

Your word shows alot of depravity on your part.
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