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Old 05-03-2009, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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you don't like traditional families and you are moving to reston. interesting.
Here's Reston's most recent U.S. Census Bureau estimates:

Population (2000): 56,407
Total Households (2007): 23,348
Married-Couple Households (2007): 10,378
Percentage of Total Households as Married-Couple Households (2007): 44%

42.0% of all Reston householders live alone.

If you're going to imply that I'm moving into a traditional family mecca it might behoove you to do some research and fact-checking first, as you can clearly see that less than half of all households in Reston are home to married couples and/or married couples with children (i.e. your "traditional family"). I will be amongst the 42% who will be living alone.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:58 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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I actually know all about it. no need to check facts kid, as I worked in herndon and lived in reston for 4 years. check that fact. I didn't say anything about a mecca, I am just giving you the facts. I didn't say you would be uncomfortable there. I just said that the entire community is set up for family stuff. parks, lakes, and crap like that.

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Here's Reston's most recent U.S. Census Bureau estimates:

Population (2000): 56,407
Total Households (2007): 23,348
Married-Couple Households (2007): 10,378
Percentage of Total Households as Married-Couple Households (2007): 44%

42.0% of all Reston householders live alone.

If you're going to imply that I'm moving into a traditional family mecca it might behoove you to do some research and fact-checking first, as you can clearly see that less than half of all households in Reston are home to married couples and/or married couples with children (i.e. your "traditional family"). I will be amongst the 42% who will be living alone.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I just find reston to be too family oriented for me. a traditional family is mother, father, and children. it wasn't the fault of the urban planners. it was the fault of the builders. before building in fairfax county, builders were forced to build the roads. prince william and loudoun counties didn't require that.
Two Fridays ago I was in Reston doing some apartment-hunting, and I spent a considerable length of time in Reston Town Center, which was a very healthy and diverse mix of families, singles, friends/roommates, colleagues, couples, etc. Granted the "poser" factor was a bit strong there (i.e. spoiled 21-year-olds tooling around in lavish luxury convertibles with their designer shades, popped collars, strong cologne, and R & B music blaring trying to "look cool" to the opposite sex), but overall I'm happy I'll soon be living within easy walking distance of this complex. Reston is probably the most "hip" of NoVA's suburbs (save for Arlington/Alexandria). I definitely got the uber-family vibe you get from Reston when I was in Ashburn, Sterling, Chantilly, and Leesburg, but Reston seemed to be a much more diverse crowd of age groups (albeit more white, non-Hispanic than I saw in neighboring Herndon).
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:00 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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oh, and if you trying to imply that you can get a feel for an area by census bureau estimates, it might behoove you to actually live there. you are relying on the federal governments statistics of an area, and we all know how much we can trust the government.

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Here's Reston's most recent U.S. Census Bureau estimates:

Population (2000): 56,407
Total Households (2007): 23,348
Married-Couple Households (2007): 10,378
Percentage of Total Households as Married-Couple Households (2007): 44%

42.0% of all Reston householders live alone.

If you're going to imply that I'm moving into a traditional family mecca it might behoove you to do some research and fact-checking first, as you can clearly see that less than half of all households in Reston are home to married couples and/or married couples with children (i.e. your "traditional family"). I will be amongst the 42% who will be living alone.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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the town center is ok if you are into the planned community vibe. I actually like reston, but I just feel it has a strong family draw to it. herndon sucks. it's all day laborers. arlington and alexandria are pretty boring. it's just a mecca of frat boys who wanted to stay in college longer, but mommy and daddy cut them off.

by the way, you are going to see young people in nice cars anywhere in that area. NOVA has a lot of money.

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Two Fridays ago I was in Reston doing some apartment-hunting, and I spent a considerable length of time in Reston Town Center, which was a very healthy and diverse mix of families, singles, friends/roommates, colleagues, couples, etc. Granted the "poser" factor was a bit strong there (i.e. spoiled 21-year-olds tooling around in lavish luxury convertibles with their designer shades, popped collars, strong cologne, and R & B music blaring trying to "look cool" to the opposite sex), but overall I'm happy I'll soon be living within easy walking distance of this complex. Reston is probably the most "hip" of NoVA's suburbs (save for Arlington/Alexandria). I definitely got the uber-family vibe you get from Reston when I was in Ashburn, Sterling, Chantilly, and Leesburg, but Reston seemed to be a much more diverse crowd of age groups (albeit more white, non-Hispanic than I saw in neighboring Herndon).
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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I am very well-educated, thank you very much, and hope to have my Ph.D. in my possession within the next few years, which is something I'm guessing you and our pal Omahabound can not say the same.
Don't bet on it. I own my own business and happen to be one of the ones that Obama will tax to death to pay for you and your buddies who think that socialism is just ok. In fact, my business is run in 5 different countries and when it comes to my education, let's just say that you only wish that you could be educated as well as I was. You see, a PH.d. in this day and age means much less than it did 50 years ago when people really had to work and study for their degrees, unlike these days when people buy their degrees and cheat and steal to get them. Thanks for thinking of me though. And the other guy is your friend not mine.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I actually know all about it. no need to check facts kid, as I worked in herndon and lived in reston for 4 years. check that fact. I didn't say anything about a mecca, I am just giving you the facts. I didn't say you would be uncomfortable there. I just said that the entire community is set up for family stuff. parks, lakes, and crap like that.
True. However, there's nothing incoming young professionals and I can do about this since so many major employers have decided to establish themselves in the outer suburbs instead of concentrating themselves nearer to DC. I need to live within a certain mile radius of my clients, and since my employer chose Herndon as its location I'm stuck up suburbia creek without a paddle. NoVA is one of the few areas I've seen in this country where job centers are so widely-dispersed, creating weird "pockets" of employment centers, young hang-outs, family areas, shopping areas, etc. I decided against signing a lease in Archstone Dulles because the surrounding neighborhood was very "surreal" to me---empty office buildings (it was the weekend) surrounded by a sea of cul-de-sacs. What sort of vibrant nightlife does that afford to anyone? Reston Town Center was the ONLY shimmer of hope I saw in the Dulles Tech Corridor to latch onto a quasi-urban lifestyle, so I pounced upon it. I just hope it continues to grow upwards and outwards to become the new downtown area for all of NoVA.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Perhaps in an area like Missouri or rural Pennsylvania (or perhaps even 75% of the geographical portion of the United States for that matter) this may be the case. In larger metropolitan areas, however, a single income just won't cut it when you're trying to raise children. I'm moving to Reston, Virginia, where the median annual family income is well over $120,000, and the median housing price is in the neighborhood of $500,000. Mass transit options are very poor in Northern Virginia due to the ineptitude of urban planners (who are just NOW finally planning to extend a Metro line to my area), requiring one to have a car to access their conveniences. With a starting gross annual salary of $41,000 I'm barely going to be able to support myself, and I signed a lease for a cheap 1-bedroom apartment with no frills for $1,135/month + utilities, which is believe it or not classified as "a good deal" in NoVA. Car insurance rates are astronomical in NoVA due to the high congestion, high rate of accidents, and high rate of auto theft/vandalism. If I were to marry a woman in a few years when I was making, perhaps, $60,000 after advancing a few pay scale levels in my profession, there's no way I'd be able to support both her AND a child on a gross annual salary of $60,000. On the other hand, if she and I were EACH earning $60,000 annually, perhaps with me as an auditor and with her as an I/T professional, then our combined household income of $120,000 would make it easy for us to afford a comfortable middle-class lifestyle for our child or children.

In my area where you can currently find a nice home for under $100,000 and where many expenses are at or below the national average, I know of MANY people who are staying home to raise children while their spouse goes out to be the breadwinner. That is NOT possible in major urban centers though where the cost-of-living is very prohibitive.



I'm an "ignoramus" (to correct your typo) and am, to paraphrase from your last sentence "unpatriotic" because I'm gay? Please explain to me where ANYTHING I brought into this debate showcases me as being un-American.
I didn't say that people were unpatriotic if they were gay. I said that they were when they push it in people's faces like their idiotic gay pride parades. It shows them to be nothing but idiots and all people do in this country is laugh at them. You might want to make sure that you bone up on your reading comprehension before you get your prized PH.d.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Don't bet on it. I own my own business and happen to be one of the ones that Obama will tax to death to pay for you and your buddies who think that socialism is just ok. In fact, my business is run in 5 different countries and when it comes to my education, let's just say that you only wish that you could be educated as well as I was. You see, a PH.d. in this day and age means much less than it did 50 years ago when people really had to work and study for their degrees, unlike these days when people buy their degrees and cheat and steal to get them. Thanks for thinking of me though. And the other guy is your friend not mine.
Where do I advocate socialism? Contrariwise I'm incensed that my new apartment complex bills you for socialized utilities in which every unit pays more or less an even monthly fee for utilization of your utilizes, which means that if you're a no frills bachelor who conserves energy/water (as I am) you can pay a HIGHER monthly bill for utilities than you otherwise would have if you were conservative with your usage because your neighbors may have been resource-squanderers. There is effectively no incentive here to conserve to save money, and if that is socialism on a smaller scale, then I'm completely opposed to that. See my "What am I?" thread for details about more of my political stances, including my disclaimer that I'm a fiscal conservative and am anti-bailout/government meddling in private industry.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Perhaps in an area like Missouri or rural Pennsylvania (or perhaps even 75% of the geographical portion of the United States for that matter) this may be the case. In larger metropolitan areas, however, a single income just won't cut it when you're trying to raise children. I'm moving to Reston, Virginia, where the median annual family income is well over $120,000, and the median housing price is in the neighborhood of $500,000. Mass transit options are very poor in Northern Virginia due to the ineptitude of urban planners (who are just NOW finally planning to extend a Metro line to my area), requiring one to have a car to access their conveniences. With a starting gross annual salary of $41,000 I'm barely going to be able to support myself, and I signed a lease for a cheap 1-bedroom apartment with no frills for $1,135/month + utilities, which is believe it or not classified as "a good deal" in NoVA. Car insurance rates are astronomical in NoVA due to the high congestion, high rate of accidents, and high rate of auto theft/vandalism. If I were to marry a woman in a few years when I was making, perhaps, $60,000 after advancing a few pay scale levels in my profession, there's no way I'd be able to support both her AND a child on a gross annual salary of $60,000. On the other hand, if she and I were EACH earning $60,000 annually, perhaps with me as an auditor and with her as an I/T professional, then our combined household income of $120,000 would make it easy for us to afford a comfortable middle-class lifestyle for our child or children.

In my area where you can currently find a nice home for under $100,000 and where many expenses are at or below the national average, I know of MANY people who are staying home to raise children while their spouse goes out to be the breadwinner. That is NOT possible in major urban centers though where the cost-of-living is very prohibitive.



I'm an "ignoramus" (to correct your typo) and am, to paraphrase from your last sentence "unpatriotic" because I'm gay? Please explain to me where ANYTHING I brought into this debate showcases me as being un-American.
BS!!! It is possible if people would be willing to do without all of their toys. All you did was to prove to me that you after the toys and such and nothing more. The same goes for most who demand that both parents have to work. They do not and that is nothing but a consumer driven mentality that thinks so.
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