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Old 05-08-2009, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm gonna say that this applies to education levels as well as income levels since they are linked...


Lowest Education/Income levels: Vote Democrat

Highest Education/Income levels: Vote Democrat

Mid-range Education/Income levels: Vote Republican

As a general rule, though other factors can certainly alter that rule for many......
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:09 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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I don't think it's an issue of who makes more. I will never be rich, I just hate the federal government and I can manage my money, so I consider myself conservative. also, remember, liberal policies do NOT punish wealth, they prevent wealth. the reason some of the super rich people are so liberal is because they know this, and they don't want anyone joining their elite club. that's why democrats punish investments so much.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The poorer people in the NY metro area likely generally vote Republican, just like in my area, the poorer people generally vote Demoratic.

In the NY area poor and wealthy are overwhelmingly Democrat. Middle class is split.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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This is just a side note....some interesting facts. Who were the top 3 wealthiest senators before the last election (2007, before the Dems had the majority they have now)?

They're the top three now as well, Kerry (D-Mass), Khol (D-Wis) of Khol's department stores and Kennedy (D-Mass), in that order....in fact the top six were Democrats.

In the House it was Harman (D-Calif), Issa (R-Calif) and Hayes (R-NC), in that order....Polis (D-CO) bumped Hayes off the list and is now third.


Another side note....who was the poorest senator in 2007?

Joe Biden (D-Del) our current Vice-President


*The disclosure forms do not require lawmakers to report exact values and instead a minimum and maximum net worth so, they're ranked based on an average of their minimum and maximum net worth.

My source for the above info:
Net Worth, 2007 | OpenSecrets
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I don't think it's an issue of who makes more. I will never be rich, I just hate the federal government and I can manage my money, so I consider myself conservative. also, remember, liberal policies do NOT punish wealth, they prevent wealth. the reason some of the super rich people are so liberal is because they know this, and they don't want anyone joining their elite club. that's why democrats punish investments so much.

You hit the nail on the head. There is certainly a faction that does not like the fact that an ordinary person can acheive great wealth. In NY there is a distinct line between new money and old money.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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This is just a side note....some interesting facts. Who were the top 3 wealthiest senators before the last election (2007, before the Dems had the majority they have now)?

They're the top three now as well, Kerry (D-Mass), Khol (D-Wis) of Khol's department stores and Kennedy (D-Mass), in that order....in fact the top six were Democrats.

In the House it was Harman (D-Calif), Issa (R-Calif) and Hayes (R-NC), in that order....Polis (D-CO) bumped Hayes off the list and is now third.


Another side note....who was the poorest senator in 2007?

Joe Biden (D-Del) our current Vice-President


*The disclosure forms do not require lawmakers to report exact values and instead a minimum and maximum net worth so, they're ranked based on an average of their minimum and maximum net worth.

My source for the above info:
Net Worth, 2007 | OpenSecrets
I would love to know how some folks go to Washington with modest means and leave millionaires.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:19 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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the funny thing is that there is no solution. you could say that they should raise income tax, but then they want to hit you with the warren buffet statement, "it's unfair that my secretary pays more in taxes than I do." he forgets to add that he is comparing capital gains taxes to income taxes. this is the way government controls. they create sides, and issues out of thin air. I am all for a consumption tax. that way you punish those who spend like idiots.

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You hit the nail on the head. There is certainly a faction that does not like the fact that an ordinary person can acheive great wealth. In NY there is a distinct line between new money and old money.

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Old 05-08-2009, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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the funny thing is that there is no solution. you could say that they should raise income tax, but then they want to hit you with the warren buffet statement, "it's unfair that my secretary pays more in taxes than I do." he forgets to add that he is comparing capital gains taxes to income taxes. this is the way government controls. they create sides, and issues out of thin air. I am all for a consumption. that way you punish those who spend like idiots.
Well I believe the solution is for the Federal government to spend less and for them to remember what their role is. Less is more, let the states decide what they want. If California wants cradle to grave benefits for their citzens go for it. Don't make me pay for it. If Wyoming doesn't want to good for them. If I think California is right I will go there, if I think Wyoming is right I'll go there. If I am a resident of Wyoming and I want to be more like California I will elect representitives accordingly. The federal government needs to back off.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well I believe the solution is for the Federal government to spend less and for them to remember what their role is. Less is more, let the states decide what they want. If California wants cradle to grave benefits for their citzens go for it. Don't make me pay for it. If Wyoming doesn't want to good for them. If I think California is right I will go there, if I think Wyoming is right I'll go there. If I am a resident of Wyoming and I want to be more like California I will elect representitives accordingly. The federal government needs to back off.
THANK YOU!

This is a perfectly stated post and exactly the way it should be.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:35 PM
 
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I am all about some states rights. but if you are pro states rights, you are anti-american!

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Well I believe the solution is for the Federal government to spend less and for them to remember what their role is. Less is more, let the states decide what they want. If California wants cradle to grave benefits for their citzens go for it. Don't make me pay for it. If Wyoming doesn't want to good for them. If I think California is right I will go there, if I think Wyoming is right I'll go there. If I am a resident of Wyoming and I want to be more like California I will elect representitives accordingly. The federal government needs to back off.
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