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Old 05-12-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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This just does not seem right... I don't think I can refute the legal logic but it seems to be a bit much. Are there no property rights to your vehicle?

Wisconsin court upholds GPS tracking by police -- chicagotribune.com
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's a very slippery slope.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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The "even if the drivers aren't suspects" part is especially troubling to me. That wreaks of government overstepping bounds.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The "even if the drivers aren't suspects" part is especially troubling to me. That wreaks of government overstepping bounds.
Agreed. I wonder what will be tried next - GPS attached to our bodies somehow?

I hope this case is appealed further.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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This is troubling. I would think that a strong case could be made that this involves unwarranted seizure. Surely the police are taking possession of the vehicle, even briefly, in order to attach the tracking device. The purpose of that possession is to obtain evidence. And ultimately, one would presume, they would again seize the vehicle if only to retrieve the tracking device. Seizure without a warrant. I really don't understand the judges' reasoning in this case.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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This is troubling. I would think that a strong case could be made that this involves unwarranted seizure. Surely the police are taking possession of the vehicle, even briefly, in order to attach the tracking device. The purpose of that possession is to obtain evidence. And ultimately, one would presume, they would again seize the vehicle if only to retrieve the tracking device. Seizure without a warrant. I really don't understand the judges' reasoning in this case.
Yeah, that's why I mentioned whether there are no property rights... how can they go under your car (or wherever) and just attach the device to it without a warrant? I understand that the information that they are getting could be had with a surveillance that would not require a warrant but I don't get the part about attaching the device. Could they attach a video-camera to your front door so they can track when you enter and leave your house?
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: southern california
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yes they can. electronics a giant open invitation to intrusion. home computers and cell phones hold a wealth of personal info available. i am sure it has already cost me a job opportunity.
fyi watch what you say on CDF it is so easy to google.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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NWO is real folks.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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yes they can. electronics a giant open invitation to intrusion. home computers and cell phones hold a wealth of personal info available. i am sure it has already cost me a job opportunity.
fyi watch what you say on CDF it is so easy to google.
Yeah, but they can't get to those things without a warrant... and, yeah, don't say stupid things or post stupid images online that are searchable...
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Old 05-12-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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Personal Freedom just doesn't seem to exist anymore.. Sad, We are indeed living in "1984"..
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