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Would that include President Homophobe (Obama)? He opposes homosexual "marriage," you know.
Somehow Obamanites don't recognize that he is against gay marriage. Some kind of messiah delusion has blinded their acceptance of his position against re defining marriage.
Somehow Obamanites don't recognize that he is against gay marriage. Some kind of messiah delusion has blinded their acceptance of his position against re defining marriage.
Oh please. Don't believe for a second that no politician on the left -- including Obama -- supports gay marriage. They all do. But very few of them have the balls to say so. The straddle the fence with the civil-union talk with the hope that they can catch some votes from the moderate conservatives for whom marriage might be a deal breaker. They won't lose votes from the liberals and gays for fence straddling because the other side is actively courting homophobes.
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allenboy. What did you think you were going to get? The black brotha that would pay the rent? Fix everything that people no longer here did not do to you? This is what you get from judgeing by skin color. Not a black superhero. You got a liberal. He will do what he can to advance illegals and gays. That's what they do. Who knows, by the end of Obama you will still be in the top three.
You got your black president. Sorry if he's not quite black enough for you.
I didnt vote for Obama nor do i have a high opinion of him. My vote was for Bob Barr who was against gay marriage and illegal immigration. Did you assume i support Obama b/c i'm black? I'm also critical of black america of screaming we got a black president when they could have had one earlier by getting behind Alan Keyes during his runs for president.
Ovcatto, do you consider 20 to be middle aged? b/c that is my age.
There is zero evidence that homo-sex is compulsory. There is only choice. Regardless of your denial and weak acceptance of perversion.
The American Psychological Association has already decided, in the seventies.. that it is an inate part of us, NOT A CHOICE...do not insult my intelligence. Where you been the last 30 plus years...not reading scientific journals...obvivously....wanna argue the point talk to them not us....this is not even debatable.....but I know...you feel it justifies your homophobia....so believe what you want. What makes some straight people such experts on Gays...makes me wonder????????
Yeah, well the blacks stole the term from the women's rights movement - so get over it. And I am disgusted by the attitude that you display. You have no "ownership" of the term in the least.
Equal rights for gay is the civil rights battle of my generation, and I'm going to work on the side of freedom and equality - no matter what bigots think.
CIVIL RIGHTS FOR GAYS!
I gave you reps for this, but I do have to slightly disagree with the underlined. Not sure of your age, but have the feeling that I'm close to twice that, if not more. (I'm of the 'baby boomer' generation.) And I've been fighting this battle on the side of the GLBT community for over 10 years.
No civil rights question;I can't marry the same sex;you can't;blacks can't and hispanic can't. We all have the same prohabitation . We also can't marry ouyr mothers ;fathers and direct blood relatives odf a different or same sex.
And 40 years ago laws in many states said blacks can marry, they just have to marry a black person. And whites had marry a white person. The Supreme Court ruled that unconstitutional and they will eventually rule laws against same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional for the same reason.
And 40 years ago laws in many states said blacks can marry, they just have to marry a black person. And whites had marry a white person. The Supreme Court ruled that unconstitutional and they will eventually rule laws against same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional for the same reason.
Wrong. Marriage is not a constitutionally-protected right. The reason for interracial marriage bans being ruled unconstitutional was the Equal Protection Clause. The Equal Protection Clause basically states that the law must be blind as to race.
It does not mention sexual orientation. While it does mention sex, the law is not required to be blind as to sex. Procection based on sex is held to a lower standard than protection based on race.
While I do support at least civil unions for same-sex couples, this argument is simply incorrect.
I should also add that DOMA is unconstitutional due to the Full Faith and Credit Clause. That's a different subject though.
I, as a black man, have listened to people who are advocating for gay marriage and illegal immigration use the civil rights struggle that the African-American community endured to help their respective causes. I'm furious when the struggle my parents and other blacks endured is being used to help two groups of people who haven't endured anything close to the h&$# my parents and black went through in the sixties.
Gay marriage advocates: You may or may not have a choice of being gay. But at least you have a choice of whether to be openly gay or go the Ted Haggard route and keep it a secret and try to appear like everyone else.
Illegals and illegal alien supporters: Dont EVEN get me started on you. You chose to come into the or stay in the US illegally.
Black folks in the 60's had no choice in the matter of their skin color. If you are gay you can try to hide it and shack up with your partner like straight couples do, if you are illegal at least you can try to get fake government documents and steal a SSN to make it seem like you are in the country legally. I doubt that science will come up with a way that you can change your skin color from black to white.
Can you imagine being refused a seat at a resturant, being denied a job, being told where to sit on a bus, even drinking at a different water fountain of poor quality all becuase you were discriminated against over something you had ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over like your skin color and race?
At the end of the day, gay marriage supporters and illegals are only fighting to make everyone else to accept the choices they made in their life. The blacks in the 60s were fighting to live life like everyone else and to not be punished for an aspect of their life they had no control over. At the end of the day, gays who want to marry inside their sex and illegals know nearly nothing about discrimination like the blacks in the civil rights era had to endure, so stop trying to hijack our struggle for your gain.
I, as a black man, have listened to people who are advocating for gay marriage and illegal immigration use the civil rights struggle that the African-American community endured to help their respective causes. I'm furious when the struggle my parents and other blacks endured is being used to help two groups of people who haven't endured anything close to the h&$# my parents and black went through in the sixties.
Get over yourself. You didn't struggle at all. Gay people have. You think the gay guy who has to hide his whole life in fear of being beaten up by his peers has an easy life? Do you think that anyone would say "you know what, I'm going to subject myself to ridicule, violence and prejudice just for a laugh" and turn gay?
You don't seem to understand that people have lost jobs, been beaten and even murdered simply for being gay. Just like you didn't choose to be black, they didn't choose to be gay. What kind of nut would choose to be gay? Most gays struggle through their whole lives because of the fear they have to live in.
Do you honestly think that Blacks have had it worst? Sure, they were slaves for a few hundred years, but that doesn't compare to the struggle the Jews had. You don't have a monopoly on suffering and the civil rights movement just because your grandparents and parents had to sit in different seats and drink out of different fountains. I had dozens of relatives at the same time who were being exterminated by the Nazis alongside many Homosexuals. I had great-grandparents subjected to violent riots (called Pogroms) before they finally fled the hate and the danger of the old world. The New World is supposed give people freedom and peace...why bring the prejudice and hatred here just because you're insecure about yourself.
My adopted brother is black AND gay and he certainly has faced many obstacles in his life, but he's overcome all of them...except for the instutionalized hatred for homosexuals. He went to Yale, he works for Google and is currently trying to decide between a few different top-15 law schools, but if he fell in love and wanted to get married, you'd tell him "no". What makes you so special that you can tell him what freedoms he has when they do nothing to harm you in any way?
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