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Old 06-10-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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It might be, but there might be medical necessity for this as well. What if the baby is dead, does the bearer of this fetus then have to carry it to term? What if the baby is severely deformed and the mother is ill equipped for its care? There are plenty of reasons a woman could use, and not all of them are bad. That is why third term abortions are legal.

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If the baby is dead in the womb, then removing it would not be considered an abortion as the baby is already dead of natural causes. Regarding the severe deformity argument, I was born with a genetic condition that affected my facial appearances and created health issues. I am so grateful that my biological mother did not abort me although she was ill-equipped to care for me.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If the baby is dead in the womb, then removing it would not be considered an abortion as the baby is already dead of natural causes. Regarding the severe deformity argument, I was born with a genetic condition that affected my facial appearances and created health issues. I am so grateful that my biological mother did not abort me although she was ill-equipped to care for me.
I'm glad you're here, too, msconnie. However, there are fetal deformities such as anencephaly (basically born w/o a higher brain), which brings about death in a few days, things like that, not cosmetic issues or minor health problems.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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Since most of the argument about Dr. Tiller's clinic centers around whether or not the late term abortions performed were done due to severe abnormalities of the fetus, I wonder if JACHO or some other watchdog agency would have the statistics on the diagnoses that required the abortion? Maybe that would clarify the situation?

Shouldn't anencephaly be discovered in the first few months of life via an ultrasound? Seems strange that for this condition and some of the other ones like spina bifida weren't noticed far earlier in the prgnancy.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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Okay, 3rd trimester? That's just plain murder.
On top of that the guy is tryting to capitalize on the situation. Seriously how can you look yourself in the mirror each morning. I 'm not necessarily condeming or condoning abortion. Just trying to put myself in the life of a man that kills babies for money EVERY DAY. Sick.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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On top of that the guy is tryting to capitalize on the situation. Seriously how can you look yourself in the mirror each morning. I 'm not necessarily condeming or condoning abortion. Just trying to put myself in the life of a man that kills babies for money EVERY DAY. Sick.
Considering the legalities of third trimester abortion where there's very strict requirements for them to be done, I'm sure he looks himself in the mirror quite easily. I would.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Since most of the argument about Dr. Tiller's clinic centers around whether or not the late term abortions performed were done due to severe abnormalities of the fetus, I wonder if JACHO or some other watchdog agency would have the statistics on the diagnoses that required the abortion? Maybe that would clarify the situation?

Shouldn't anencephaly be discovered in the first few months of life via an ultrasound? Seems strange that for this condition and some of the other ones like spina bifida weren't noticed far earlier in the prgnancy.
According to this link, the best case scenario is diagnosis at about 10 weeks. However, it's usually diagnosed in the 2nd trimester.

FAQ about anencephaly
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:06 PM
 
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I have to stop looking at these abortion threads it's too bone chilling to know these ghouls walk among us.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:11 PM
 
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I have to stop looking at these abortion threads it's too bone chilling to know these ghouls walk among us.
Good bye.

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"Baby" Killers WIN!

Woo Hoo this is a great day for the baby killers! More dead babies! More dead babies! Mmm give me some death!



Clearly demented to celebrate third trimester abortion even if you are pro abortion. This society is regressing to when people were like animals.
YUM!!!!!!!!!!

I want more!

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The people who what women to die in horrible agony, and who want children with fatal birth defects to be born and live in pain for awhile before death.

And the people who want to interfere with the relationship between a woman and her doctor (but who also cry about "bureaucrat-run health care").
Sad, ain't it?

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I don't lust for the blood of the innocent. I lust for the tears of the conservatives, religious nutcases and Republicans!
Beautiful. I love that.

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Despite what the American Taliban feels about this it is LEGAL and within the law.
IS legal and always WILL BE legal.

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Old 06-10-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Iraqi/Afghanistan babies are different as they have little chance of being Christian and are more than likely brown. If we use our tax money to blow them to bits, or simply blow their limbs off, it's perfectly ok because that's what happens when we spread freedom.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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I can understand (although not agree with) the pro-choice crowd wanting to keep abortions legal but 3rd trimester abortions? What justification outside of the woman's life being in jeopardy would justify a late-term abortion?
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Severe fetal deformities.

But I agree....it's a very slippery slope and I don't like late-term abortions at all.

It is funny that they seem to want NO restrictions on third trimester abortion. They really do think a third trimester fetus is a mere "blob of cells" apparently.
Third trimester abortions are extremely rare (.01% of all abortions).

Hopefully, since this is on the Fox News website, even those on the right will take it as a credible source:

FOXNews.com - Fast Facts: U.S. Abortion Statistics - U.S. & World
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