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Old 06-16-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/103xx/doc...ChoicesAct.pdf

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According to that assessment, enacting the proposal would result in a net increase in federal budget deficits of about $1.0 trillion over the 2010–2019 period. Once the proposal was fully implemented, about 39 million individuals would obtain coverage through the new insurance exchanges. At the same time, the number of people who had coverage through an employer would decline by about 15 million (or roughly 10 percent), and coverage from other sources would fall by about 8 million, so the net decrease in the number of people uninsured would be about 16 million.
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According to the preliminary analysis, once the proposal was fully implemented, the number of people who are uninsured would decline to about 36 million or 37 million, representing about 13 percent of the nonelderly population. (Roughly a third of those would be unauthorized immigrants or individuals who are eligible for Medicaid but not enrolled in that program.)
This estimate is not complete, but it is still a disaster.

 
Old 06-16-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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a trillion dollars over a decade and still have 30 million people without insurance.

Awesome.

Funny that none of those advocates in the other health insurance thread are in here defending the UHC in light of this information from the CBO.
 
Old 06-16-2009, 11:05 AM
 
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we need more unbiased entities like the CBO figuring out the true cost of the plan before the bill gets rushed through without serious debate.

True healthcare reform is too important to be rushed through without serious study of all of its implications.
 
Old 06-16-2009, 11:31 AM
 
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Double that $1 trillion then we might be getting close. I wonder who will be loaning us the money?

Did you see that Barry has set up the health rationing board, I guess he is making sure the gubmint bureaucracy is in place.
 
Old 06-16-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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Send this info to Bill Maher so he'll stop complaining about Obama not pushing hard enough for his version of UHC.
 
Old 06-16-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by fopt65 View Post
we need more unbiased entities like the CBO figuring out the true cost of the plan before the bill gets rushed through without serious debate.

True healthcare reform is too important to be rushed through without serious study of all of its implications.
I get the feeling that this will be subsidized insurance reform and rationing of services. Cut medicaid and medicare and move all those folks over to this new insurance.

I don't see anything about actual reform to the industry..the high costs of drugs, doctor malpractice insurance, specialized medicine.
 
Old 06-16-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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After CBO Analysis, White House Distances Self From Kennedy Bill - Political Punch

Kennedy goes under the bus after CBO estimate comes out. And that's an incomplete estimate - the final estimate will be closer to $2 trillion.

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"This is not the Administration’s bill," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement following the Congressional Budget Office's analysis of Sen. Ted Kennedy's health care reform legislation, "and it's not even the final Senate Committee bill."
Where is your bill, toadie? You are delegating the "details" to congress, yet when an assessment comes out that is not favorable, all of a sudden, "it's not our bill".

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Gibbs continued, saying "what is clear is what will happen if we let political posturing stand in the way of reform again: exploding deficits, lob loss, dwindling benefits, and millions more Americans joining the ranks of the uninsured.
More empty rhetoric - let's see the details.
 
Old 06-16-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Political posturing ????

Where's the bill so we can read it Mr. President ?
 
Old 06-16-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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Obaama sadi in teh primary debates against Clinton that he estmated that 15 million would not be insured and that it was not feasible to make them pay for insurance.
 
Old 06-16-2009, 02:25 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Obaama sadi in teh primary debates against Clinton that he estmated that 15 million would not be insured and that it was not feasible to make them pay for insurance.
If they're going through the trouble to make "universal healthcare" then they're going to mandate that you be covered. There will be no "uninsured." And although Barry says you can keep your own health coverage, the govt will drive out the private insurance and then, lo and behold, you'll be forced to deal with UHS.
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