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Old 06-30-2009, 01:40 AM
 
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During the presidential campaign, Palin’s deep ignorance about most aspects of foreign and domestic policy provided her with a powerful political reason not to submit to interviews. The forthcoming book adds a powerful commercial reason.

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:01 AM
 
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Wow, read the piece that you linked to... Vanity Fair pretty much slices and dices Palin up pretty good. Though I pretty much agree with the article.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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What a juxtaposition: the mediocrity and character flaws of Palin, vs the brilliantly creative and deeply
sensitive actor, Heath Ledger. People will be watching and studying his performance as The Joker in
The Dark Knight long after Palin has been laughed from the world stage. The Vanity Fair article shows
Palin at her best, and that ain't good: she's The Joke opposite Ledger's Joker.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:22 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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What a juxtaposition: the mediocrity and character flaws of Palin, vs the brilliantly creative and deeply
sensitive actor, Heath Ledger. People will be watching and studying his performance as The Joker in
The Dark Knight long after Palin has been laughed from the world stage. The Vanity Fair article shows
Palin at her best, and that ain't good: she's The Joke opposite Ledger's Joker.
I don't know -- I think I'd take mediocre and alive over deeply sensitive and dead. At least the former has the potential for change. The latter is pretty much stuck with drug-addled and rotting.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:48 AM
 
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Heath Ledger the drug addict, that Heath Ledger? No great loss.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:58 AM
 
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Bill Clinton Vs. Vanity Fair - CBS News

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"He's a really dishonest reporter," Clinton said...

Clinton went on to observe: "It's all politics. It's all about the bias of the media for Obama. Don't think anything about it. But I'm telling ya, all it's doing is driving her supporters further and further away - because they know exactly what it is - this has been the most rigged coverage in modern history - and the guy ought to be ashamed of himself. But he has no shame. It isn't the first dishonest piece he's written about me or her."
Isn't the Vanity Fair the magazine that had an undeage girl pose topless on the front cover? I think the girls name was Miley Cyrus. I wonder if Vanity Fair was outraged at Mrs. California...

Just saying...
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:20 AM
 
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Bill Clinton Vs. Vanity Fair - CBS News

Isn't the Vanity Fair the magazine that had an undeage girl pose topless on the front cover? I think the girls name was Miley Cyrus. I wonder if Vanity Fair was outraged at Mrs. California...

Just saying...
attack that messenger.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:32 AM
 
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During the presidential campaign, Palin’s deep ignorance about most aspects of foreign and domestic policy provided her with a powerful political reason not to submit to interviews. The forthcoming book adds a powerful commercial reason.

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com
Let's be fair, too.
The American public's deep ignorance of most aspects of American law haven't stopped them from participating in a mockery of the republican form of government and embracing national socialism.

Here's a simple train of thought:
Declaration of Independence states that job#1 is to secure rights (life, liberty, property), and job#2 is to govern those who consent.

So, if American governments are instituted among men to secure life, liberty and property, WHERE did American governments get the power to DENY life, liberty and property - as in conscription - mandatory military service?

Tick
Tick
Tick
....
BZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Time's up - - -

Answer: It's consent of the governed.

But someone forgot to tell Americans how they consented to be obligated to fight and die on command of the commander in chief. Certainly, those draft dodgers didn't know that they had volunteered.

Do you know how you volunteered?

Hint, hint:
American people are sovereigns.
But citizens, by definition, are subjects.

Did you sign any government documents asserting that you were a U.S. citizen?
There you go...

There is no law that imposes citizenship, because the civic duties would become involuntary servitude.

So let's be less harsh on Palin, and more harsh on the ignorant and apathetic public at large.

References:
"People are supreme, not the state."
Waring v. the Mayor of Savannah, 60 GA at 93.

"The people of the state, as the successors of its former sovereign, are entitled to all the rights which formerly belonged to the king by his own prerogative."
Lansing v. Smith, (1829) 4 Wendell 9, (NY)

"At the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people and they are truly the sovereigns of the country."
Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall. 440, 463
[Point 1: people are sovereign in America]
"... the term 'citizen,' in the United States, is analogous to the term "subject" in the common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government. ... he who before was a "subject of the King" is now a citizen of the State."
State v. Manuel, 20 N.C. 144 (1838)

"CITIZEN - ... Citizens are members of a political community who, in their associative capacity, have established or submitted themselves to the dominion of government for the promotion of the general welfare and the protection of their individual as well as collective rights. "
- - - Black's Law Dictionary,Sixth Ed. p.244
"SUBJECT - One that owes allegiance to a sovereign and is governed by his laws.
...Men in free governments are subjects as well as citizens; as citizens they enjoy rights and franchises; as subjects they are bound to obey the laws. The term is little used, in this sense, in countries enjoying a republican form of government."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 1425
[Point #2, citizens, by definition, are subjects.]

Sovereigns and subjects are mutually exclusive.
Did "they" forget to teach you this in "Social Studies"?

Who are the militia?
Title 10 USC Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, CITIZENS of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Title 50 USC Sec. 453. Registration (Selective Service)
(a)...it shall be the duty of every male CITIZEN of the United States, and every other male person RESIDING in the United States, who, on the day or days fixed for the first or any subsequent registration, is between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six, to present himself for and submit to registration at
such time or times and place or places, and in such manner, as shall be determined by proclamation of the President and by rules and regulations prescribed hereunder. ...
What proof is there that Americans who are not citizens are recognized by government?
"The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different states in this union, the free inhabitants of each of these states, paupers, vagabonds and fugitives from Justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free citizens in the several states;"
[Article IV of the Articles of Confederation (1777)]
Still not convinced that there are sovereign American nationals who have not consented to be subject citizens?
The Secretary of State is authorized to issue, in his discretion and in accordance with rules and regulations prescribed by him, a certificate of nationality for any person not a naturalized citizen of the United States who presents satisfactory evidence that he is an American national and that such certificate is needed for use in judicial or administrative proceedings in a foreign state. Such certificate shall be solely for the use in the case for which it was issued and shall be transmitted by the Secretary of State through appropriate channels to the judicial or administrative officers of the foreign state in which it is to be used.
- - - Title 8, U.S.C. Sec 1502
Can you imagine the chaos, if 51% of Americans stopped volunteering to be citizens? Why - - - who would Congress have to boss around?

By the way, a U.S. citizen / resident, residing at a residence, is an inferior status at law. Check your own state constitution for proof.

Did you think "everybody" born in the U.S.A. was a U.S. citizen residing at a residence?

What's an inhabitant (as in free inhabitant)?
"INHABITANT - One who resides actually and permanently in a given place, and has his domicile there."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p.782

"DOMICILE - A person's legal home. That place where a man has his true, fixed, and permanent home and principal establishment, and to which whenever he is absent he has the intention of returning."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p.484

"RESIDENCE - Place where one actually lives ... Residence implies something more than physical presence and something less than domicile. The terms 'resident' and 'residence' have no precise legal meaning... [One can have many residences but only one domicile]
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p.1308, 1309
U.S. citizens who reside at residences do not have legal, permanent homes. Coincidentally, no state issues "resident" licenses (permissions) to non-resident inhabitants domiciled in their state. In fact, inhabitants don't need permission, because they're not transients and trespassers. They have the RIGHT to be in the state and use the public roads and waterways, marry, own a dog, build a house, enter occupations, and run a business without permission of their servant government.

Check your own state's constitution and laws for mention of the inhabitant and his superior status.
" No inhabitant of this state shall be molested in person or property ... on account of religious opinions..."
- - - Georgia Constitution, Article 1, Sec.1, Paragraph 4
If your religious opinions forbid you to enroll into national socialism, accept numbering, or engage in usury, you cannot be molested for your choice... in Georgia. And if you think they were not aware of the difference between inhabitants and residents, read this:
"Citizens, protection of.
All citizens of the United States, resident in this state, are hereby declared citizens of this state; and it shall be the duty of the General Assembly to enact such laws as will protect them in the full enjoyment of the rights, privileges, and immunities due to such citizenship."
- - - Georgia Constitution, Art 1, Sec.1, Paragraph 7
Recapping, the government is not sovereign, but servant to the sovereign people. However, citizens are subjects of the sovereign government. Since involuntary servitude is unconstitutional (except after conviction), the compulsory civic duties associated with citizenship are empowered by consent of the governed. You DID give consent, knowingly, willingly and intentionally, didn't you? You did sign many government documents where you claimed to be a citizen and a resident, didn't you?

Didn't you?
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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Wow, read the piece that you linked to... Vanity Fair pretty much slices and dices Palin up pretty good. Though I pretty much agree with the article.
Does that mean you agree with Biden when he said "3 Words = JOBS" and this is the VP of the USA? Scarey!
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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Boy..you loons are really afraid of Palin. Just won't let it go. Still talking about the last election. Kinda like the '69 Mets. Every year just keep showing the same old video tape of the victory during a rain delay. Getting pretty tired. Yawnnn
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