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Old 07-03-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sorry, but the terrorist attack on the middle class started with Reagan.


Yes, capitalism without regulation has proven to be detrimental to the poor and middle class and has helped NO one but the wealthiest.
Alright I'll bite, but I'll just go back to Bush.

Bush took care of big business. Regulations changed, rules got lax.
Capitalists played the market, created their bubbles and the middle class rode on their coattails..making some good money. The rich created a revenue stream that middle class was able to share to a degree.

Obama is looking out for the poor but will not penalize either big business or the rich.
The poor will not create any bubbles. The poor will generate a deficit that the middle class will have to bear.

Either party, either president..there is an underlying agenda.
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Sorry, but the terrorist attack on the middle class started with Reagan.
Reagan resided over the greatest expansion of revenues to the treasury at the time.

The democratic congress failed to implement their spending cuts, as usual.
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Good for him!

I'm tired of people not buying heath care insurance and going to my local hospital emergency room and stiffing them with the bill!

Who do you think winds up paying for that?

Stop being dead beats wingnuts!
I do not use allopathic medical care. Other than a dire emergency situation (being in a traffic accident), etc., I would not go to a doctor. In the event of a emergency, I have VA care so I would be coveed by that.

I have no intention of buying health insurance that is useless to me.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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So what does 'affordable' mean? That is far too ambiguous a term. I like the idea of making it available, but not the idea of requiring it. Hey Big Bro', step off!
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Sorry, but the terrorist attack on the middle class started with Reagan.
What are you talking about? The middle class were better off under Reagan, not worse off. They were paying less in taxes by the end of Reagan's term(s) than they were at the end of Carter's term.

Real median family income grew by $4,000 during Pres. Reagan's term after experiencing no growth at all in the Carter years.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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Americans crying for a nanny state and universal health care, but don't want to cough up 1,000 clams for the coverage....America is becoming a nation of co-dependant adult children.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: FL/TX Coasts
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And some of these people say he is not a socialist!

You gotta be kidding me.

The biggest mistake in American history is unfolding before our eyes with this moron.
Moron? are you talking again about W?
you need to get off that course...staying the course ain't helping you at all.
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Old 07-03-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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What are some people supposed to do, when they simply can not afford insurance, due to either cost or being denied for a pre-existing condition?
Universal single payer heath care address those needs. Europe has done it for decades.....they cover EVERYONE and and 60% of the cost.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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A payment is a payment, no matter how small or large.

The problem is that medical costs are WAY too expensive. Seriously, it should NOT cost 1K+ to get a cast in the ER.

Yes it's good that she is paying something. But this person is not sophisticated enough to know that someone is absorbing the loss....That would be you and me...But to top this off she's against the only good way to solve this problem ...Univeral Single Payer Health care.

I swear these winger are so brainwashed they wouldn't know a good health care plan if you hit them in the head with it.....LOL
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:05 PM
 
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do you know why the emergency room bills are so high? because democrats introduced a bill that guaranteed everyone treatment in the emergency room, WHETHER THEY COULD PAY OR NOT, so all americans are subsidizing emergency room treatment. pete stark, the democratic congressional representative for alameda county introduced EMTALA in 1986, which then passed, guaranteeing that all americans would be paying more for emergency room care.


now they plan to do it again, forcing all americans to subsidize insurance for everybody, thereby guaranteeing that all americans will be paying more for insurance.


OUR GOVERNMENT NEVER LEARNS!!!!
And you oppose a plan that would make those who default on healthcare bills pay for those costs via mandatory health care premiums...LOL....Unbelievable!
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