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Old 07-10-2009, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by neil0311 View Post
No sympathy at all. Wish the bulls would get a few more.

Why does a country in western European, which as we all know is the epicenter of human culture and progressiveness, allow this kind of crap to continue along with bull fighting?
If you are a meat eater, you should know that beef doesn't grow in neat little styrofoam trays with plastic skins. Someone took it away from the previous owner so that you could have dinner without getting your hands dirty.

As far as a bullfight, it is, truly, a spectacle, and that's what the crowd pays to see. Killing a bull in the ring is not much different nor is it any more cruel than what takes place in many slaughterhouses, and a bull in the ring occasionally extracts a bit of revenge upfront before being transported from the arena to become tomorrow's tacos. The last one I attended outside Monterrey, Mexico saw a toreador gored in the leg and carried out on a stretcher and a horse disembowelled when the picador moved in at the wrong angle.

Are you by any chance a vegetarian?
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Vermont, grew up in Colorado and California
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If you are a meat eater, you should know that beef doesn't grow in neat little styrofoam trays with plastic skins. Someone took it away from the previous owner so that you could have dinner without getting your hands dirty.

As far as a bullfight, it is, truly, a spectacle, and that's what the crowd pays to see. Killing a bull in the ring is not much different nor is it any more cruel than what takes place in many slaughterhouses, and a bull in the ring occasionally extracts a bit of revenge upfront before being transported from the arena to become tomorrow's tacos. The last one I attended outside Monterrey, Mexico saw a toreador gored in the leg and carried out on a stretcher and a horse disembowelled when the picador moved in at the wrong angle.

Are you by any chance a vegetarian?
Are you by any chance a fan of Dog fighting too?
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Are you by any chance a fan of Dog fighting too?
Never been to one.

What kind of dishes do they make from the carcasses?
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Vermont, grew up in Colorado and California
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If you are a meat eater, you should know that beef doesn't grow in neat little styrofoam trays with plastic skins. Someone took it away from the previous owner so that you could have dinner without getting your hands dirty.

As far as a bullfight, it is, truly, a spectacle, and that's what the crowd pays to see. Killing a bull in the ring is not much different nor is it any more cruel than what takes place in many slaughterhouses, and a bull in the ring occasionally extracts a bit of revenge upfront before being transported from the arena to become tomorrow's tacos. The last one I attended outside Monterrey, Mexico saw a toreador gored in the leg and carried out on a stretcher and a horse disembowelled when the picador moved in at the wrong angle.

Are you by any chance a vegetarian?
Lets put it another way, anyone who wants to WATCH this is a scary thought. Yes I know it's gone on for years...for some sad reason.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I feel the same way about NASCAR.

"Turn Left And Go Fast" isn't what it's all about for a lot of people. They want to see crashes, BIG crashes, Spectacular Crashes, and lots of them.

I'm going to sit over here now and wait to be attacked.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:55 PM
 
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Running with the bulls is on my bucket list. I'm going to do it the year of my 50th birthday. Some of us just don't want to live boring, pedestrian little lives, and we have the cojones to grab life by the horns and have fun with it. Yes, I fully realize the hazards involved, but I'm not endangering anyone but myself by doing it.
Terrorizing animals is not required to avoid living "boring, pedestrian little lives." "Running with the bulls" doesn't require "cojones." It merely requires idiotic humans who need a constant adrenaline rush to feel like they're alive. And you are most certainly endangering someone else: the animals themselves.

Grow up, for chrissakes.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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If you are a meat eater, you should know that beef doesn't grow in neat little styrofoam trays with plastic skins. Someone took it away from the previous owner so that you could have dinner without getting your hands dirty.

As far as a bullfight, it is, truly, a spectacle, and that's what the crowd pays to see. Killing a bull in the ring is not much different nor is it any more cruel than what takes place in many slaughterhouses, and a bull in the ring occasionally extracts a bit of revenge upfront before being transported from the arena to become tomorrow's tacos. The last one I attended outside Monterrey, Mexico saw a toreador gored in the leg and carried out on a stretcher and a horse disembowelled when the picador moved in at the wrong angle.

Are you by any chance a vegetarian?
Bullfighting is abhorrent. It's absolutely obscene that human beings think that killing an animal for "spectacle" is somehow morally defensible.

I am a vegan. But I know plenty of meat-eaters who are in complete agreement with me.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Bullfighting is abhorrent. It's absolutely obscene that human beings think that killing an animal for "spectacle" is somehow morally defensible.

I am a vegan. But I know plenty of meat-eaters who are in complete agreement with me.
My older daughter is a vegan, and she agrees with you.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I agree totally
bull fighting is horrible
and as for feeling bad that someone got killed while running with these bulls is just stupid
would I stick my hand in a den of rattlers and then get pissed because I got bit?
good grief
I couldn't agree more! These stupid people are getting what they ask for if they get hurt. Bull fighting is cruel and the running of the bulls is cruel because those bulls don't live for long after this.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Bullfighting is abhorrent. It's absolutely obscene that human beings think that killing an animal for "spectacle" is somehow morally defensible.

I am a vegan. (I'm a vegetarian) But I know plenty of meat-eaters who are in complete agreement with me.
Yes, it is an obscene, unjustifiable, and cruel spectator "sport" which should be banned. There is a difference between quickly killing an animal for the meat and spearing it over and over again for sport. It is right up there with dog and cockfighting - horrible. I don't understand how anyone with a conscience can partake in those - either as a spectator or a participant.
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