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Well yeah she was saying kill the poor. Is that somehow acceptable in your eyes?
Well, no, that wasn't what she was saying. And as a rural woman of limited means, I think I should have the same rights as a wealthy woman living in Chicago when it comes to making decisions regarding my reproductive health. Is that somehow unacceptable in your eyes?
Well, no, that wasn't what she was saying. And as a rural woman of limited means, I think I should have the same rights as a wealthy woman living in Chicago when it comes to making decisions regarding my reproductive health. Is that somehow unacceptable in your eyes?
Even Sandra Day O'Connor said it was odd that men (on SCOTUS) would make the final decision concerning women's bodies.
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
I'm less apt to think that she was concerned with controlling the black population so much as providing more impoverished women with the same choices as more affluent ones. She's always been a big (but short) supporter of women's rights.
To satisfy curiousities, I could just as well ask her in the next card I send
Well, no, that wasn't what she was saying. And as a rural woman of limited means, I think I should have the same rights as a wealthy woman living in Chicago when it comes to making decisions regarding my reproductive health. Is that somehow unacceptable in your eyes?
Well that is quite a stretch. Why won't you take her words at face value
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
Well, no, that wasn't what she was saying. And as a rural woman of limited means, I think I should have the same rights as a wealthy woman living in Chicago when it comes to making decisions regarding my reproductive health. Is that somehow unacceptable in your eyes?
Roe gives all women the right to an abortion. Now women like yourself want the "right" to reach into my wallet to pay for your abortion. Nice try.
Well that is quite a stretch. Why won't you take her words at face value
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
"growth in a poulation we don't want too many of"
Who would that be?
What population, indeed?
Surely, it couldn't be the population of women who don't want to bring another child into this world because they are ill-equipped to take care of it.
After all, who was Roe, and why would she have been representative of a "population" that Ginsberg wanted to practice eugenics upon? You accuse me of stretching? But you're trying to play the eugenics card when it involves a lower-middle-class single white woman? Who exactly has ever wanted to practice eugenics on this group of women?
Roe gives all women the right to an abortion. Now women like yourself want the "right" to reach into my wallet to pay for your abortion. Nice try.
You clearly don't have a clue. If a waitress in Mtn Home Arkansas gets pregnant, where does she go to get an abortion? There are only TWO clinics in the state of Arkansas that provide abortions. She doesn't want you to pay for the abortion, but she might actually like to keep her job. Funny thing, waitresses often don't get vacation time. And some places even require a doctor's excuse to excuse an unpaid sick day. So she has to take a day off work, just to drive to a city where she can get an abortion. And then she has to take another day off to comply with the waiting period. And the hotel costs at least a day's pay. She may have to take a third day off to drive back home. If there are any complications, bye-bye job.
The laws against abortions don't stop affluent women in urban areas from having abortions. There are at least 20 clinics in Chicago alone that provide abortions. The laws stop poor women in rural areas. Because who cares about them? Certainly not you.
Surely, it couldn't be the population of women who don't want to bring another child into this world because they are ill-equipped to take care of it.
After all, who was Roe, and why would she have been representative of a "population" that Ginsberg wanted to practice eugenics upon? You accuse me of stretching? But you're trying to play the eugenics card when it involves a lower-middle-class single white woman? Who exactly has ever wanted to practice eugenics on this group of women?
Hey these aren't my words they are hers and they are pretty plain. She was hoping a specific part of our population wouldn't be brought into the world. She is a bright woman and has a great fund of words. She could have used them to make the point you attribute to her rather than the one she made.
Her words were clear.
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
Hey these aren't my words they are hers and they are pretty plain. She was hoping a specific part of our population wouldn't be brought into the world. She is a bright woman and has a great fund of words. She could have used them to make the point you attribute to her rather than the one she made.
Her words were clear.
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
Zing! Right over your head.
She did make my point. You just want to INTERPRET her words as advocating some sort of eugenics, without actually making that connection. If you're advocating eugenics, then there is a segment of the population that has a genetic identifier that you want eliminated. Explain what genetic group she was talking about. Otherwise, your interpretation of her words has NO foundation.
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