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Old 07-14-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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I agree with cleanhouse. No one has problems with Obama needing advisors, and oversight of programs are a good thing.

There seems to be a sense of vagueness of how much power these "czars" have.

Would be nice if the WH would clear this up.
The implication of the word Czar is usually not positive because of their association in history with Russian Czars.
[SIZE=3]czar[/SIZE] (zär, tsär)
n. 1. also tsar or tzar (zär, tsär) A male monarch or emperor, especially one of the emperors who ruled Russia until the revolution of 1917.
2. A person having great power; an autocrat: "the square-jawed, ruddy complacency of Jack Farrell, the czar of the Fifteenth Street police station" (Ernest Hemingway).
3. Informal An appointed official having special powers to regulate or supervise an activity: a racetrack czar; an energy czar.

czar - definition of czar by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:41 AM
 
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hussein obama thinks he is some kind of king and it serves the ego of this narcissist to say he has czars that are accountable to no one but him.

If hussein is not re-elected will hussein obama's worshiping sheep be happy with a Republican President having all these czars? They would be screaming like a girl.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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If hussein is not re-elected will hussein obama's worshiping sheep be happy with a Republican President having all these czars? They would be screaming like a girl.
I agree they would be up in arms.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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President Obama's czar system concerns some - Los Angeles Times

Here it says the czar is a "high-level staff members who will help oversee the administration's top initiatives", also calls them "super-aids".

It also discusses how it is not a new concept, Nixon started it, but my understanding is no President has used it a liberally as Obama. Goes pretty hand in hand with his ideology of top down regulation though.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:50 AM
 
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What's alarming is the sheer number of "super-aids" Obama has.

I think last count was 16?
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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What's alarming is the sheer number of "super-aids" Obama has.

I think last count was 16?
that is alot of chefs in the kitchen. That uually does not result in positive outcomes.
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Old 07-14-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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What's alarming is the sheer number of "super-aids" Obama has.

I think last count was 16?
Are these all new positions, or are they positions that are newly being called "czar"-ships? If someone has a staff of twenty people, and no one says anything about the size of that staff, but then some people start describing those staff members differently, is the criticism of the size of the staff still viable? Are these new positions being created by Obama, or are they existing positions that the press has elevated to "czars"?
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:01 PM
 
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The 'czar' title was first used to refer to an appointed government official in a Time Magazine article in December 1973, referring to William E. Simon's appointment as the head of the Federal Energy Administration.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:09 PM
 
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that is alot of chefs in the kitchen. That uually does not result in positive outcomes.
I don't know about you, but I sure don't want to run into his Science Czar, John Holdren.



Yikes !

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Old 07-14-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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Are these all new positions, or are they positions that are newly being called "czar"-ships? If someone has a staff of twenty people, and no one says anything about the size of that staff, but then some people start describing those staff members differently, is the criticism of the size of the staff still viable? Are these new positions being created by Obama, or are they existing positions that the press has elevated to "czars"?

I could be wrong, but I believe they are new appointed positions, not just re-names of old ones.
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