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Old 07-15-2009, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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We have a Supreme Court nominee who made statements about feeling kinship with members of similar ethnic background. One who went so far as to say that empathy with one's background was a part of a judge's decision-making process whenever cases came up that involved people of slimilar background.

Now imagine that a case came before this judge after appointment to the SCOTUS, and the judge overturned decades of established case law in order to rule with a person of similar ethnic background. Wouldn't that be outrageous? Wouldn't that get the conservatives up in arms? Wouldn't they be horrified at an act of judicial activism that showed racial bias?

Wouldn't they? Apparently not.

Samuel Alito, an Italian-American, said this at his confirmation hearing:

Quote:
When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.
Recently, in a case before the SCOTUS, he ruled against prevailing precedent in order to side with an Italian-American.

I guess bias isn't a question when it's a white man. Or a conservative.

 
Old 07-15-2009, 11:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by idahogie View Post
We have a Supreme Court nominee who made statements about feeling kinship with members of similar ethnic background. One who went so far as to say that empathy with one's background was a part of a judge's decision-making process whenever cases came up that involved people of slimilar background.

Now imagine that a case came before this judge after appointment to the SCOTUS, and the judge overturned decades of established case law in order to rule with a person of similar ethnic background. Wouldn't that be outrageous? Wouldn't that get the conservatives up in arms? Wouldn't they be horrified at an act of judicial activism that showed racial bias?

Wouldn't they? Apparently not.

Samuel Alito, an Italian-American, said this at his confirmation hearing:



Recently, in a case before the SCOTUS, he ruled against prevailing precedent in order to side with an Italian-American.

I guess bias isn't a question when it's a white man. Or a conservative.
Thank you for that post! Good info.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: MIA
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Originally Posted by idahogie View Post
We have a Supreme Court nominee who made statements about feeling kinship with members of similar ethnic background. One who went so far as to say that empathy with one's background was a part of a judge's decision-making process whenever cases came up that involved people of slimilar background.

Now imagine that a case came before this judge after appointment to the SCOTUS, and the judge overturned decades of established case law in order to rule with a person of similar ethnic background. Wouldn't that be outrageous? Wouldn't that get the conservatives up in arms? Wouldn't they be horrified at an act of judicial activism that showed racial bias?

Wouldn't they? Apparently not.

Samuel Alito, an Italian-American, said this at his confirmation hearing:



Recently, in a case before the SCOTUS, he ruled against prevailing precedent in order to side with an Italian-American.

I guess bias isn't a question when it's a white man. Or a conservative.
A white man in politics can't proclaim his whiteness without being guilty of some sort of racist hate crime.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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A white man in politics can't proclaim his whiteness without being guilty of some sort of racist hate crime.
What are you going on about? You seem to be angry that you can't be openly racist.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 11:45 PM
 
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A white man in politics can't proclaim his whiteness without being guilty of some sort of racist hate crime.
Based upon the historical role of exerting one's whiteness, why would you be surprised? You folks who like to jump on this logical fallacy seem to dismiss , forget or at least think that the rest of us are stupid for not remembering the the historical context of such statements.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 05:43 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Nice way to sugarcoat it. Some of her comments have been blatantly racist. For example:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." -Sotomayor

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Old 07-16-2009, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I don't want to hear what she says. I want to know how she's ruled. If she flaps her gums one way yet judged differently, I wouldn't have a problem with her. The only thing I appreciate with this go-'round with this nominee is no Senator Biden to ramble on about himself and baseball for excrutiating long periods of time, without asking a question.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Originally Posted by idahogie View Post
We have a Supreme Court nominee who made statements about feeling kinship with members of similar ethnic background. One who went so far as to say that empathy with one's background was a part of a judge's decision-making process whenever cases came up that involved people of slimilar background.

Now imagine that a case came before this judge after appointment to the SCOTUS, and the judge overturned decades of established case law in order to rule with a person of similar ethnic background. Wouldn't that be outrageous? Wouldn't that get the conservatives up in arms? Wouldn't they be horrified at an act of judicial activism that showed racial bias?

Wouldn't they? Apparently not.

Samuel Alito, an Italian-American, said this at his confirmation hearing:



Recently, in a case before the SCOTUS, he ruled against prevailing precedent in order to side with an Italian-American.

I guess bias isn't a question when it's a white man. Or a conservative.

You're right on the money again. Good post.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Originally Posted by idahogie View Post
We have a Supreme Court nominee who made statements about feeling kinship with members of similar ethnic background. One who went so far as to say that empathy with one's background was a part of a judge's decision-making process whenever cases came up that involved people of slimilar background.

Now imagine that a case came before this judge after appointment to the SCOTUS, and the judge overturned decades of established case law in order to rule with a person of similar ethnic background. Wouldn't that be outrageous? Wouldn't that get the conservatives up in arms? Wouldn't they be horrified at an act of judicial activism that showed racial bias?

Wouldn't they? Apparently not.

Samuel Alito, an Italian-American, said this at his confirmation hearing:



Recently, in a case before the SCOTUS, he ruled against prevailing precedent in order to side with an Italian-American.

I guess bias isn't a question when it's a white man. Or a conservative.

So you ARE admitting that Soto is biased?
 
Old 07-16-2009, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
I don't want to hear what she says. I want to know how she's ruled. If she flaps her gums one way yet judged differently, I wouldn't have a problem with her. The only thing I appreciate with this go-'round with this nominee is no Senator Biden to ramble on about himself and baseball for excrutiating long periods of time, without asking a question.
Well, now you've heard how Alito ruled. Aren't you going to speak out about it? There's more evidence now that he rules based on ethnicity than there is about Sonia Sotomayor. Wingnuts are calling her racist. Why not Alito?
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