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Old 08-04-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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The CARS program (Cash for Clunkers) seems to be working as designed, spurring car sales and dispelling, at least for C-D, the myth that Americans don't want small gas efficient automobiles.

1. Ford Focus 27-28 mpg
2. Toyota Corolla 25-30
3. Honda Civic 24-42
4. Toyota Prius 46 mpg
5. Toyota Camry 23-34 mpg
6. Ford Escape 20-32
7. Hyundai Elantra 26-28
8 Dodge Caliber 22-27
9. Honda Fit 29-31
10 Chevy Cobalt 25-30

Further, 83% of the cars traded in have been SUVs and 60% of cars purchased have been passenger vehicles.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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Money definitely talks.

But for me, my lifestyle talks a little louder. I explicitly required a roof rack, 4WD, and a towing package for a reason.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The CARS program (Cash for Clunkers) seems to be working as designed, spurring car sales and dispelling, at least for C-D, the myth that Americans don't want small gas efficient automobiles.

1. Ford Focus 27-28 mpg
2. Toyota Corolla 25-30
3. Honda Civic 24-42
4. Toyota Prius 46 mpg
5. Toyota Camry 23-34 mpg
6. Ford Escape 20-32
7. Hyundai Elantra 26-28
8 Dodge Caliber 22-27
9. Honda Fit 29-31
10 Chevy Cobalt 25-30

Further, 83% of the cars traded in have been SUVs and 60% of cars purchased have been passenger vehicles.
Good to see American companies benefiting from this....

A link would be nice too.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Money definitely talks.

But for me, my lifestyle talks a little louder. I explicitly required a roof rack, 4WD, and a towing package for a reason.
Good for you, although I have no idea how your comments relate to the program or the thread seeing how it is perfect feasible to find a qualifying vehicle with a roof rack, 4wd and a towing package.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:50 AM
 
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Good to see American companies benefiting from this....

A link would be nice too.
Your sarcasm aside, Ford is very happy with the program and as you can see is doing quite well in comparison.

From a personal standpoint, I could careless about the nationality of the auto company but rather whether or not a car is made or assembled in the U.S. and from that perspective, American auto workers are benefiting directly from 9 of the top 10 cars being sold.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Good for you, although I have no idea how your comments relate to the program or the thread seeing how it is perfect feasible to find a qualifying vehicle with a roof rack, 4wd and a towing package.
You assume too much. How much does aero need to tow? I myself would not tow with anything less than a V-6. Add to that you need a vehicle with enough weight of its own to keep that trailor from pushing you off the road in turns.
Bottom line is I am against this program anyway.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Link please.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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Your sarcasm aside, Ford is very happy with the program and as you can see is doing quite well in comparison.

From a personal standpoint, I could careless about the nationality of the auto company but rather whether or not a car is made or assembled in the U.S. and from that perspective, American auto workers are benefiting directly from 9 of the top 10 cars being sold.

Just out of curiosity which of the top 10 doesn't have some part manufactured in the states? Just here in po-dunk the factories have contracts with Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, and Subaru {which contracts with Hyundai or did when I worked for them in 2004} and there's a HUGE Honda plant an hour south east of here.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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Good for you, although I have no idea how your comments relate to the program or the thread seeing how it is perfect feasible to find a qualifying vehicle with a roof rack, 4wd and a towing package.
I guess that's what you get for thinking.

But if you must know, my required towing capacity dictates a large vehicle, of which none qualifies under the miles-per-gallon restriction placed on the CFC program.

It pays to think things through sometimes.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:07 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The Obama administration is refusing to release government records on its "cash-for-clunkers" rebate program that would substantiate — or undercut — White House claims of the program's success, even as the president presses the Senate for a quick vote for $2 billion to boost car sales. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said Sunday the government would release electronic records about the program, and President Barack Obama has pledged greater transparency for his administration. But the Transportation Department, which has collected details about 157,000 rebate requests, won't release sales data that dealers provided showing how much U.S. car manufacturers are benefiting from the $1 billion initially pumped into the program.
The Associated Press has sought release of the data since last week. But the public and Senate Republicans demanding more information will have to wait for details because federal officials running the program don't have time to turn over data delivered by car dealers, said Rae Tyson, spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Obama administration withholds data on program - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090804/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cash_for_clunkers_transparency - broken link)
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