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When did blind faith become a virtue?
I have asked this before (http://media.www.vainformer.com/media/storage/paper1335/news/2008/04/23/SignedEditorials/From-Dream.To.Reality.The.Informer.Then.Now.And.Into.Th e.Future-3372570.shtml - broken link), and the answer is never easy. But to try to simplify it: When the Left has decided something is a fact, it becomes one. Or, in the words of Vladamir Lenin, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth."
But, true to the Left's ways, the Obama White House has refused to acknowledge that a controversy exists. Others on the Left are dismissing it as foolish because they don't believe it, and if they don't find the debate "academic" enough for their taste, it does not exist. Where have we seen this before?
It never ceases to amaze that the Left will go out of its way to forge documents about George W Bush's national guard service to "prove" that he never served, but will not even bother to make sure Obama's basic papers are in order, nor acknowledge that it is a little fishy that the documents are locked away, never to be seen again. The "birthers" are scorned and ridiculed constantly for daring to ask "Let's see some ID." (Perhaps now we know why Obama quickly sided with Professor Gates when he likewise had an issue with that request).
Or, in the words of Vladamir Lenin, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth."
Was it Lenin? I see some references to it but can't find anything concrete.
On the other hand:
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All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true in itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
Was it Lenin? I see some references to it but can't find anything concrete.
On the other hand:
it is a logical fallacy..proof by assertion, repeated and repeated..to wear down the opponent..the..opponent gives up..then the assertion becomes fact..
It is a form of brainwashing..used buy the left..they often use talking points..
the quote is attributed to Lenin ...this fallacy is used in this forum...it is what they do best..ever wonder why Obama has so many news conferences...to repeat over and over this fallacy..
I'm just tired of reading all of these posts about birthers. I just wish Obama would produce his long form BC, his school records, etc... just like other presidents have and put this to bed for good.
I just wish Obama would produce his long form BC, his school records, etc... just like other presidents have and put this to bed for good.
Amen... and I'm not even religious.
Someone on my own forum put forth the idea they are dragging it out to try and take the focus off real issues. Makes sense but I'm not saying that is the case.
I'm just tired of reading all of these posts about birthers. I just wish Obama would produce his long form BC, his school records, etc... just like other presidents have and put this to bed for good.
I agree. I voted for the guy and still support him through these trying times.....but for gods sake, I just wish he'd pony up his birth certificate for public examination and put this deal to bed.
Again, even though I voted for him I'm getting disgusted that he won't just deal with this so we can move on....enough already !
....but for gods sake, I just wish he'd pony up his birth certificate for public examination and put this deal to bed.
Again, even though I voted for him I'm getting disgusted that he won't just deal with this so we can move on....enough already !
I guess this is like Lenin's lie that eventually becomes the truth. He HAS provided a certified copy of his birth certificate for public examination, quite some time ago. Just keep saying that he hasn't and eventually everyone will assume that he hasn't?
I agree. I voted for the guy and still support him through these trying times.....but for gods sake, I just wish he'd pony up his birth certificate for public examination and put this deal to bed.
Again, even though I voted for him I'm getting disgusted that he won't just deal with this so we can move on....enough already !
I don't think you are being fair to Obama - he IS dealing with this. He's spent a MILLION dollars so far to suppress all of his records and keep them sealed.
I don't think you are being fair to Obama - he IS dealing with this. He's spent a MILLION dollars so far to suppress all of his records and keep them sealed.
That's some pretty serious "dealing".
please provide a source for this claim.
i have asked for it several times and no one has provided it.
the best i've gotten is "he's used lawyers in these cases, therefore he spent money on them".
but everyone keeps pulling out this $1 million number, or somethimes "hundreds of thousands of dollars". where do those numbers come from?
i guess he shouldn't have his lawyers respond to frivolous lawsuits?
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