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Old 08-21-2009, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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No, actually Crist has stolen a page from the Democrat playbook and is working the angle that he is protecting consumers from evil corporations (insurance). The only difference between his grandstanding and the grandstanding over high gas prices last year is that he is actually forcing rates lower by guaranteeing a future bill for the Florida residents when hurricanes eventually hit.

So basically, when Floridians get a $40billion bill in the mail this year or 7 years from now....they voted for the guy....not my problem.
The difference between Crist's public plan and the Affirmative Action President's public plan is the States have the constitutional power to create such an option, the federal government does not.

I may not like it, but I cannot deny that States have the power to decide for themselves. Congress, however, is prohibited from usurping this power away from the States by the 10th Amendment.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:25 AM
 
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The difference between Crist's public plan and the Affirmative Action President's public plan is the States have the constitutional power to create such an option, the federal government does not.

I may not like it, but I cannot deny that States have the power to decide for themselves. Congress, however, is prohibited from usurping this power away from the States by the 10th Amendment.
Huh? Where the heck did that come from? You could have started talking about the mating habits of Giraffes and been more on-topic.

We aren't talking about federal insurance but rather the populist actions of Christ...much like the populist grandstanding that was going on during the gas crisis.

Lastly, I'm not sure where this "affirmative action president" moniker came from but frankly it's stupid. Speaking as an actual independent, such name calling makes you look bad....just like it did when the left kept frothing about Bush. (It's also a little ironic in that Obama is sharper and came up without big money or family ties unlike Bush, Kerry, Kennedy(s) etc. and in that light is more like Clinton and Reagan.)
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:09 AM
 
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LOL how many Republicans is Charlie Crist? Your thread would be more appropriately titled, Republican supports public hurricaine insurance.
okay then so why do republicans insist all democrats are the same and will past anything any democrat put on the table?

all democrats dont even support the public option
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Huh? Where the heck did that come from? You could have started talking about the mating habits of Giraffes and been more on-topic.

We aren't talking about federal insurance but rather the populist actions of Christ...much like the populist grandstanding that was going on during the gas crisis.
Maybe you should pay closer attention to the thread topic. The OP is aghast, and apparently confused, that a Republican (Crist) would support a State public insurance plan when Republicans would not support a federal public insurance plan. The OP clearly cannot comprehend that the State public plan is in accordance with the US Constitution, while the federal public plan is not.

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Lastly, I'm not sure where this "affirmative action president" moniker came from but frankly it's stupid. Speaking as an actual independent, such name calling makes you look bad....just like it did when the left kept frothing about Bush. (It's also a little ironic in that Obama is sharper and came up without big money or family ties unlike Bush, Kerry, Kennedy(s) etc. and in that light is more like Clinton and Reagan.)
Institutionalized government discrimination is indeed stupid, unconstitutional, and insulting. Which is why I use the Affirmative Action label in regard to the President, to remind the stupid liberal bigots of their creation. Since every minority and every female in the nation are Affirmative Action recipients, whether they know it or not, and whether they like it or not, they cannot escape the reality that Obama is an Affirmative Action President.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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Ummm not likley, he can't even run for Senate without a challenger Crist is a left leaning Republican, not likley to get the nomination. He speaks for no one but Charlis Crist. Nice try though.
A governor speaks for no one?? Not even the people that elected him? We still live in a Republic don't we?
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Charlie Crist is only one man. He doesn't speak for every other person in the Republican party.
The federal government already assists the American people who are gravely affected by natural disasters.

I'd have to see the language in a bill like this to see if it was just trying to organize the current hodgepodge of a disaster relief program that we already have. On the other hand, federal lawmakers might try to turn it into a bill that decides, for the American people, where they can build homes and how the homes will be built.
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:34 AM
 
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The federal government already assists the American people who are gravely affected by natural disasters.

I'd have to see the language in a bill like this to see if it was just trying to organize the current hodgepodge of a disaster relief program that we already have. On the other hand, federal lawmakers might try to turn it into a bill that decides, for the American people, where they can build homes and how the homes will be built.
Interesting that you mention this. The government has been implementing changes to their flood insurance plan over the years because it was costing them a lot of money. They came to realize that they were enabling people to build where they shouldn't or at least build inappropriately.

There is a big difference between disaster relief where it occurs infrequently and the expectation that Florida will be hit with a number of hurricanes in just the next 10 years. (Hopefully none but lets be realistic) Florida is currently subsidizing their homeowners insurance by guaranteeing higher costs, taxes and budget cuts when they eventually get hit. Christ is just pushing off the cost until later and declaring himself the savior.

P.S. One of the mechanisms already in place are their insurance assessments. If another Andrew hits, they will send a bill to the insurance companies that will then recoup those amounts by adding a surcharge to your future premiums. (You may already see a small line-item on your insurance bill for this but it should be relatively minor). The cap is about 10% so expect a major hurricane to jump your rates 10% just for the surcharge and it will take a couple years or so before it goes away.

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