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Old 06-22-2015, 07:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Then came the 16th amendment and the formation of the IRS, to do just that.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IagZzFIIymw





It is time to end all forms of our federal government, having the power to punish supposedly free people, that are suppose to have liberties for all.


When the federal government orders you to commit perjury(lie) or go to jail, we are in a world of trouble as a free society.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Yawn, BentBow. Another "let's live without government" thread
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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it wasnt endowed with the authority to do many of the things it does and in many cases outright prohibited.
However paper has proven it isn't much of a guard against tyranny.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:19 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yawn, BentBow. Another "let's live without government" thread


If any form of government ordered you to commit perjury, would you do it?
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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If any form of government ordered you to commit perjury, would you do it?
You know what kind of society human civilization had before "big, bad government" stepped in? Feudal lords ruling over the peasants. That's what you want to go back to. You want your own personal little fiefdom, doing whatever you like, like how Britain was before the 19th century.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You know what kind of society human civilization had before "big, bad government" stepped in? Feudal lords ruling over the peasants. That's what you want to go back to. You want your own personal little fiefdom, doing whatever you like, like how Britain was before the 19th century.
You skipped my question.
If any form of government ordered you to commit perjury, would you do it?

Power is power no matter where it is placed.


This nation was founded upon the principles, that the power was not in the Federal governments hands, to punish free people.
That is why the Constitution starts out, WE THE PEOPLE, not We the government.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The very fact that a federally appointed(not elected) judge can order you to commit perjury or go to jail, says to me, government can order you to do anything it wishes.
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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The federal Government was never suppose to be able to punish the people.

Actually the states gave authority or delegated to the federal Gov. in four instances.

1) felonies committed or piracy on the high seas
2) treason
3) counterfeiting
4) border protection
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Old 06-22-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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Then came the 16th amendment and the formation of the IRS, to do just that.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IagZzFIIymw





It is time to end all forms of our federal government, having the power to punish supposedly free people, that are suppose to have liberties for all.


When the federal government orders you to commit perjury(lie) or go to jail, we are in a world of trouble as a free society.
It is the duty of the state/states to interpose on behalf of the people to prevent the federal gov. from harming them.


How do we fight against federal government overreach? Interposition.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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If this is true, it is extremely unsettling, and needs to be taken seriously, not answered with an apathetic "yawn". The only fools are those who think they already know everything, and that "there's nothing to see here folks".

Never dismiss an idea simply because you don't like the source. (don't remember who said that)
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