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Old 08-17-2009, 12:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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you have to Apply your logic then to all polls. If the question is not asked to experts in the criteria then the poll is invalid.
Not true. All polls are not the same.

A question like "Do you think Obama is doing a good job?", doesn't require an expert.

It's nothing more than an opinion. There is no right or wrong answer.

Some people may like Obama's policy choices, others may disagree.

However, "Do you think the stimulus is working?" requires an economic expert to study financial data, and give an answer based on actual facts ... not opinions.

And a poll of 1000+ randomly selected participants is not the same as a poll of economic experts.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:23 PM
 
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Not true. All polls are not the same.

A question like "Do you think Obama is doing a good job?", doesn't require an expert.

It's nothing more than an opinion. There is no right or wrong answer.

Some people may like Obama's policy choices, others may disagree.

However, "Do you think the stimulus is working?" requires an economic expert to study financial data, and give an answer based on actual facts ... not opinions.

And a poll of 1000+ randomly selected participants is not the same as a poll of economic experts.
I do not think there is a clear cut answer to is the stimulus working either.
Data can be analyzed, interpreted and manipulated in different ways. Especially data that is as complicated involving the US economy. Granted if unemployment dropped 2 percentage points since March I believe 99 of 100 experts would agree the stimulus is working based on that data.
Unfortunately the data on the effectiveness of the stimulus is much more oblique.
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Old 08-17-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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The money was to jumpstart Wall Street, not Main Street.
Yes, a lot of money was spent to stabilize the banking sector. If the financial sector in the U.S. had fully collapsed then the U.S. would have been finished as an international power. Without that stabilization many people were predicting disaster. Look around now and you'll see some people out of work but there is no disaster. It has turned out to just be another run-of-the-mill recession. That is a pretty good accomplishment in itself.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Point is, government spending is the ONLY way out of a Depression.

History is conclusive on this.
I see we have another that does not know her history.

It is a fact, government spending prolonged the depression. The private sector is the ONLY true solution to a recession - government "spending" takes money OUT of the private sector. The private sector is the engine that runs our economy, when it "cuts back", no amount of wasteful spending by the government will revive it - as is shown today.

Japan also thought massive government spending was the cure-all. It didn't work for them, just like it didn't work during the depression and just like it isn't working now.

Try this little piece for starters.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123353276749137485.html
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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The stimulous is not working because we need to pass ANOTHER one! Come on people, let's vote for change!
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:26 PM
 
Location: southern california
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misnamed. it stopped a free fall. those 10% of the jobs gone are not coming back. permanent contraction of the economy.
welcome to burger king may i take your order, is next when UIB is gone.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I like this;


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Old 08-17-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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57% of Americans say that they think it's not working. Wow.

I'm sure that they are very well-informed. Wonder what percentage were birthers?
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Here
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57% of Americans say that they think it's not working. Wow.

I'm sure that they are very well-informed. Wonder what percentage were birthers?
Unfortunately everyone cannot be as well-informed as you are.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:58 PM
 
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Unfortunately everyone cannot be as well-informed as you are.
Actually, they can. What's unfortunate is that they choose not to be.
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