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Old 10-07-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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Global Warming: Scientists' Best Predictions May Be Wrong

well hello, Dolly.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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Official government measurements show that the world's temperature has cooled a bit since reaching its most recent peak in 1998.

Drop in world temperatures fuels global warming debate | McClatchy
Well, don't you think carbon emissions are causing global cooling?
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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And these early snow falls don't strike you as the least little bit odd?

Of course all of the detractors will just keep clinging to their semantic argument despite all evidence to the contrary.
See, this is why the GW alarmists changed from global WARMING to climate change - that way, any and all extremes in temperature can be attributed to climate change.

It just doesn't fly anymore.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:26 PM
 
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They never predicted the "end of Mankind" - that's selective memory and exaggerated hysteria on your part. What they DID predict were millions of dead - and that indeed HAS happened. More than 25 million people have died of AIDS and at least that many remain infected - and it would have been a LOT worse had not those "alarmist" scientists mobilized to provide funding for research and treatment.

Worldwide AIDS & HIV Statistics Including Deaths


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Old 10-07-2009, 09:30 PM
 
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Did you even read the article you posted? It's not saying what you seem to think it is.


...and there's a big difference between 10,000 years and 100 years.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:33 PM
 
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Did you even read the article you posted? It's not saying what you seem to think it is.


...and there's a big difference between 10,000 years and 100 years.
Start to finish. It's exactly what I think it is. N
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:59 AM
 
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The problem with your analysis is you are making the simplistic assumption that it's an "either/or" situation - when the fact is, it's not. The truth of the matter is that that there are NUMEROUS things affecting the climate - including natural cycles of the sun and geological activity (in the form of emitted gasses through volcanic activity) of the earth - as well as more mundane cyclical weather patterns such as El Nino and La Nina - and quite possible (maybe even probably) - human CO2 emissions. All of this makes arguing against Global Warming (or for it for that matter) pretty "easy" (though that's not the same as "accurately"). One need only select the particular activity currently going on that backs up your position (while ignoring the others). Since all these cycles operate on their own "schedule" sometimes one will counteract another, while at other times they may reinforce each other - thereby compounding their impact. Right now some of these natural cycles are bringing down temps. So does that mean that when they reverse then temps will REALLY spike (as the Global Warming folks argue) because then these cycles will reinforce Global Warming rather than counter balance it? That's the claim and in a few years we'll likely see.
You have a point Ken...however...my post was mainly directed to the AL Gore global warming crowd. .. For example my sister-in-law who luvs Al Gore and Verbatims anything that Gore says...One day I got an argument with her and friends over the claim that the earth's average surface temperature was increasing yearly..she said it was a fact...because she saw AL's movie inconvenient truth...
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:02 AM
 
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BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Typhoon lashes Japan on landfall

From the article:

Typhoon season

Despite Japan's extensive defences against floods and landslides, including storm surge barriers in coastal areas, western Japan was battered in October 2004 by Typhoon Tokage, which killed 95 people.

In August this year, Typhoon Etau brought flash floods and landslides that killed at least 25 people in Japan, even though it avoided a direct hit.

Another powerful storm, Ketsana, has caused devastation across South East Asia, killing hundreds of people, mostly in the Philippines and Vietnam.

In Taiwan more than 600 people died after Typhoon Morakot struck in August.


The number of typhoons/hurricanes are a result of warming ocean temperatures.
Again, this is a thread based on personal politics, not science.
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:19 AM
 
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The current melting in the Arctic and now the Antarctic -the latter which is very surprising and alarming dispel the 'new myth' that global warming is slowing.

The top of the earth and near the arctic- and near the bottom are the first to see the most rapid changes in climate change- not temperate latitudes. And the increase at the top and bottom of the earth have continued to rise.

Worldwide fluctuations in temperatures are common- to expect worldwide temperatures to rise every year in response to climate change is not realistic in a period of a decade or less-this is all the more the case in comparing temperatures at temperate latitudes and the ever rising temperatures near the arctic. Also the amount of pack ice at the north pole reached the lowest extent this simmer since 2 years ago- which was the least on record.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:05 AM
 
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The current melting in the Arctic and now the Antarctic -the latter which is very surprising and alarming dispel the 'new myth' that global warming is slowing.

The top of the earth and near the arctic- and near the bottom are the first to see the most rapid changes in climate change- not temperate latitudes. And the increase at the top and bottom of the earth have continued to rise.

Worldwide fluctuations in temperatures are common- to expect worldwide temperatures to rise every year in response to climate change is not realistic in a period of a decade or less-this is all the more the case in comparing temperatures at temperate latitudes and the ever rising temperatures near the arctic. Also the amount of pack ice at the north pole reached the lowest extent this simmer since 2 years ago- which was the least on record.
NASA Debunks Part of Global Warming Myth, Will Media Report It?

Such seems likely to be alleged by hysterical alarmists in the press when and if they read a new study out of NASA which determined that "not all the large changes seen in Arctic climate in recent years are a result of long-term trends associated with global warming."

Goes quite counter to all the recent media reports, as well as assertions by Nobel Laureate Al Gore, that low ice conditions in the Arctic are all the fault of that despicable -- albeit essential to life and naturally occurring! -- gas carbon dioxide.

Of course, it's quite unlikely many climate alarmists will even hear about this study, for today's green media wouldn't want to do anything that destroys their illusion that there's a scientific consensus regarding this matter.

"Our study confirms many changes seen in upper Arctic Ocean circulation in the 1990s were mostly decadal in nature, rather than trends caused by global warming,"

"The winter of 2006-2007 was another high Arctic Oscillation year and summer sea ice extent reached a new minimum," he said. "It is too early to say, but it looks as though the Arctic Ocean is ready to start swinging back to the counterclockwise circulation pattern of the 1990s again."

NASA Debunks Part of Global Warming Myth, Will Media Report It? | NewsBusters.org
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