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Old 08-23-2009, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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"Women seeking an abortion must be told that the procedure ends a human life, a federal judge ruled Thursday, upholding part of a South Dakota law.
U.S. District Judge Karen Schreier said doctors must disclose to pregnant women that “the abortion will terminate the life of a whole, separate, unique, living human being.”



human baby at 10 weeks.

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/08/j...-a-human-life/

You mean a Government Bureaucrat just got between patient and doctor
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You are more concerned with defending abstract principles of liberty than a human life?
By trampling the liberties of the doctor and the woman, to protect the liberty of something that isn't even a human. It doesn't suit you, to talk about personal liberties.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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You mean a Government Bureaucrat just got between patient and doctor
No, it wasn't a bureaucrat, it was an activist judge.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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You are more concerned with defending abstract principles of liberty than a human life?
It is not a human life. It is a FETUS- a clump of cells no different than those of a dog or a plant. It is not human until it is born or close to being born. And until it is a human it should be left 100% up to the woman.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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You are more concerned with defending abstract principles of liberty than a human life?
I'm thinking of the woman's life.
Save the sermon for Sundays.

A clump of cells is not a human being. Until it's viable outside the womb, it's not a living human being.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:47 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Because we stand for the woman's right to control her own body. We stand for the born.
There are two lives involved. One is ended forever. Once is temporarily inconvienced. It is NOT only her body involved. Abortion is 100% fatal to the unborn child. At one point in time all of us...women included...were at the mercy of our mother's "choice." I will always believe that choosing life over temporary inconvience is the humane and human choice.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:49 PM
 
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There are two lives involved. One is ended forever. Once is temporarily inconvienced. It is NOT only her body involved. Abortion is 100% fatal to the unborn child. At one point in time all of us...women included...were at the mercy of our mother's "choice." I will always believe that choosing life over temporary inconvience is the humane and human choice.
See you have the CHOICE to think that " choosing life over temporary inconvience is the humane and human choice".

We also have the choice. That choice resides with the woman!
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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There are two lives involved. One is ended forever. Once is temporarily inconvienced. It is NOT only her body involved. Abortion is 100% fatal to the unborn child. At one point in time all of us...women included...were at the mercy of our mother's "choice." I will always believe that choosing life over temporary inconvience is the humane and human choice.
You can be a human incubator for all I care but don't tell other women that they need to be one as well.

Life doesn't begin until the fetus is viable outside the body. Before 21 weeks, it isn't viable.

What about the mother's life? Should she have to subject her body to pregnancy to satisfy some rabid right winger who doesn't give a damn about her?

If you're for life, are you for universal health care?
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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There are two lives involved. One is ended forever. Once is temporarily inconvienced. It is NOT only her body involved.
Stop right there. Pregnancy causes death. Not often but it does. Pregnancy causes other problems minimized by you use of "inconvenienced". How insulting to women. Every woman has the right to chose the risks she wants to take each and every time she becomes pregnant.

You go right ahead and make your choices about what you want to do with your body but you have no right to make the choices for other women.
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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No, it wasn't a bureaucrat, it was an activist judge.

President Clinton appointed an activist judge?
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