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Old 08-25-2009, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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How could that be? Isn't this program run by the same folks who want to run all healthcare?
For one, if you had read the entire post, Dick Armey, the same guy who is supplying the bus, has filed a suit to make Medicare and Social Security Voluntary. If he wins most of the people paying in will quit and they will collapse. Tens of millions of seniors will lose their homes to Medical Bills and be thrown on Welfare, which is also Socialism
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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Were past tax cuts funded by raiding the Medicare and Social Security trust funds?
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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For one, if you had read the entire post, Dick Armey, the same guy who is supplying the bus, has filed a suit to make Medicare and Social Security Voluntary.
And, that would be outstanding!! It would mean that the American people will be able to decide what to do with THEIR money! And, if they invest it - they will have far more in retirement monies than the meger pittance that SS gives out
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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For one, if you had read the entire post, Dick Armey, the same guy who is supplying the bus, has filed a suit to make Medicare and Social Security Voluntary. If he wins most of the people paying in will quit and they will collapse. Tens of millions of seniors will lose their homes to Medical Bills and be thrown on Welfare, which is also Socialism


Well wait a minute isn't that what Obamacare is promising, choice? Why shouldn't Medicare recipients get it? Why would it collapse if people chose something else? Could it be that they really don't want choice with Obamacare either?
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Well wait a minute isn't that what Obamacare is promising, choice? Why shouldn't Medicare recipients get it? Why would it collapse if people chose something else? Could it be that they really don't want choice with Obamacare either?
There is no money in Social Security, those paying in are supporting it. If they stop so does it. So we will be rid of that Socialist Program

Then they will have neither, the Insurance Companies won't touch them so they can expect bankruptcy and welfare. But the taxpayer will pay for that
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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And, that would be outstanding!! It would mean that the American people will be able to decide what to do with THEIR money! And, if they invest it - they will have far more in retirement monies than the meger pittance that SS gives out

If they invest what?

The money they will make as greeters at Slave Mart
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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If they invest what?

The money they will make as greeters at Slave Mart
Ignorance. You speak from a position of ignorance.

I don't pay into social security or medicare. Have not in almost 40 years. Can never get either one.

Yet, by taking the same amount I would have paid into the "system", and privately investing the same monies - I am going to get over 4 times what I would have gotten if I had paid into the "system".

Ignorance. You speak from ignorance
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Ignorance. You speak from a position of ignorance.

I don't pay into social security or medicare. Have not in almost 40 years. Can never get either one.

Yet, by taking the same amount I would have paid into the "system", and privately investing the same monies - I am going to get over 4 times what I would have gotten if I had paid into the "system".

Ignorance. You speak from ignorance
EXCUUUUUUUUSE me, I didn't know you were one of the chosen few who doesn't have to pay the same taxees as the rest of us. So I guess all of those people who did pay in can starve for all you care, excuse me Mr Cheyney
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:32 PM
 
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I'm watching John McCain's townhall and virtually every attendee is a senior citizen. No young folks in the bunch. It's like this at every townhall. Maybe they should have these events after work hours. This is not cross section of America.
Take off from work and go.... Now that wasn't to hard was it..
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:50 PM
 
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I'm watching John McCain's townhall and virtually every attendee is a senior citizen. No young folks in the bunch. It's like this at every townhall. Maybe they should have these events after work hours. This is not cross section of America.
Well, they have the most time, after all. What else do they have to do other than go to their weekly doctor's appointment (paid by Medicare) to measure their blood pressure, weight, and chat with the nurse and 5 minute chat with the doc? I just watched a video segment of John McCain having to listen to boos from this population and try to control them. I give him credit for doing so. I always love their "government should not get involved in healthcare" stand-up comedy routine because we all know that Medicare and Social Security is supported by space aliens.
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