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Old 08-31-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Have you ever listened to the Lyrics of the original "Johnny"? Not the jingoist nonsense. Jonny came back barely alive but thankfully “You’ll never be going’ away again. Johnny we’re glad to see Ya.”

I got home in 1967. One fool asked me if I was a "baby Killer?" I responded with a terse, "Not yet." He left.

I worked for a year as a machinist. Near end of the year I started growing a beard. The foreman said, "Shave or leave." I punched my time card and left. As I was walking away he asked, "What are you doing?" I responded with "Taking the second option." He said, "But we trained you how to machine titanium." I said, "Thanks, but you have absolutely no right to tell me how I must appear. That is MY choice, not yours. Good by."

I had a bad attitude about petty tyrants then and I still do. I'll do the job I am paid to do, nothing more and nothing less.

I was betrayed just by being there and I do not forget. I will never fight for some rich dicks Empire again and I tell any kid that will listen to not do it either. You do not owe the plutocrats a dime, let alone your life. If they want to loot the world let them go and carry a gun. I'm through.
I can't and wouldn't think of arguing with anything you said. Unfortunately, the powers that be didn't listen to us over the past 35 years and that's why we're mired in yet another war of "our" choosing and the body count continues. Surely I can't be the only person who point to a time when our wars weren't begun by us and were fought over territory and because of real challenges to us or real allies, not over ideologies or natural resources.

I'm with you on the tyrant stance. I have always believed that while I can be paid enough to take a little crap from a various people some of the time, no one can ever pay me enough to take a lot of crap from any person anytime.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I want you to think about this picture: A young tough U.S. Marine steps off an airplane after experiencing a year of Hell called Veitnam. He is already bitter and angry. As he walks through the airport a scawny guy with long hair and a flower in his hair walks up and shouts "BABY KILLER!" and spits on the uniform of this Marine.
Now I want you to fill in the rest of what happens here:
Might want to do some reality checks on that for several reasons.
vietnam spit - Google Search
Secondly, you have people like Calley and the Mai Lai murders.

You might want to get a small helping of reality.
There was a lot of hyperbole at the time.

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Old 08-31-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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How many vets do you know and talked to? The contention that the derision of vets did not happen is shameful and deceitful. The spitting and "baby killer" comments are not in the vet's imagination. Shame on you.
He said he was a vet of that war and was anti-war.
I'm also a veteran of that war.

It's shameful and deceitful for you to take the truth and turn it until it is not so.
I suppose you're doing that in the name of America, too.
Feh.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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How many vets do you know and talked to? The contention that the derision of vets did not happen is shameful and deceitful. The spitting and "baby killer" comments are not in the vet's imagination. Shame on you.
This has become hawkeyes M.O., just keep blasting away on them*%^$@(*@# liburrrrallls and you gain some respect, if anyone should be ashamed it would be you, reading the entire posts of the others here would be a good place to start. I have stated that there were isolated incidents, don't try to stretttttcccchhhh, the statements of others!!!
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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Have you ever listened to the Lyrics of the original "Johnny"? Not the jingoist nonsense. Jonny came back barely alive but thankfully “You’ll never be going’ away again. Johnny we’re glad to see Ya.”

I got home in 1967. One fool asked me if I was a "baby Killer?" I responded with a terse, "Not yet." He left.

I worked for a year as a machinist. Near end of the year I started growing a beard. The foreman said, "Shave or leave." I punched my time card and left. As I was walking away he asked, "What are you doing?" I responded with "Taking the second option." He said, "But we trained you how to machine titanium." I said, "Thanks, but you have absolutely no right to tell me how I must appear. That is MY choice, not yours. Good by."

I had a bad attitude about petty tyrants then and I still do. I'll do the job I am paid to do, nothing more and nothing less.

I was betrayed just by being there and I do not forget. I will never fight for some rich dicks Empire again and I tell any kid that will listen to not do it either. You do not owe the plutocrats a dime, let alone your life. If they want to loot the world let them go and carry a gun. I'm through.

I couldnt disagree with you more. However I DO appreciate, respect and honor your service, weather it was involuntary or not.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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We already have one, although this pot-generation is more of an economically driven one, and encompasses all ages.

'Though reliable numbers are hard to come by, marijuana growers in Mendocino County generate an estimated $1 billion a year. That makes the area home to a sizable chunk of a national market for marijuana believed to be in the tens of billions of dollars.'

Marijuana growers thrive in California - CNBC TV- msnbc.com
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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Most of you people are stupid *******s! What was the point? It was the greatest point in world history. You say, "we don't need another generation like that"; so I say to you, "Oh, like having a bunch of ***** ass, pharmaceutically doped, justin bieber loving kids is great right? Where nobody thinks for themselves and just believes all the bull**** they're fed. THERE IS NO, I repeat NO talent left in this country. the only recent musicians that actually had intelligence to their music is: Tupac & Immortal Technique. All you people are is a bunch of brain washed neanderthals that listen ridiculous **** like lady gaga; no intelligence! Or you go on your dumbass twitter so you can tell the whole world you just took a **** and are now pissing! You are all nothing but slaves, so continue to be sheep... don't question anything, don't have any morality, judgement, or common sense, so this way when your bitching and screaming about how our govt took our rights: freedom of speech, right to own arms, freedom of assembly, etc. I can look you in the face and go "HA, you stupid ****... now do you get the picture, see the point?" But more and likely you will just be as dumb as you are today and say "this is so the terrorists don't get us, this is for our own good". Try reading a book sometime instead of your douchebag friend's facebook update! May I suggest "1984" by George Orwell! Also, smoke some pot, it might open you mind up from the microscopic box you've locked it in!
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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The Woodstock Generation's parents paid for the peace and love, and the economy was strong.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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Most of you people are stupid *******s! What was the point? It was the greatest point in world history. You say, "we don't need another generation like that"; so I say to you, "Oh, like having a bunch of ***** ass, pharmaceutically doped, justin bieber loving kids is great right? Where nobody thinks for themselves and just believes all the bull**** they're fed. THERE IS NO, I repeat NO talent left in this country. the only recent musicians that actually had intelligence to their music is: Tupac & Immortal Technique. All you people are is a bunch of brain washed neanderthals that listen ridiculous **** like lady gaga; no intelligence! Or you go on your dumbass twitter so you can tell the whole world you just took a **** and are now pissing! You are all nothing but slaves, so continue to be sheep... don't question anything, don't have any morality, judgement, or common sense, so this way when your bitching and screaming about how our govt took our rights: freedom of speech, right to own arms, freedom of assembly, etc. I can look you in the face and go "HA, you stupid ****... now do you get the picture, see the point?" But more and likely you will just be as dumb as you are today and say "this is so the terrorists don't get us, this is for our own good". Try reading a book sometime instead of your douchebag friend's facebook update! May I suggest "1984" by George Orwell! Also, smoke some pot, it might open you mind up from the microscopic box you've locked it in!
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I think one self absorbed, unproductive, utterly inconsequential and stoned out generation is enough thank you.
So you'd vote for another ME! ME! ME! I got mine, screw everyone else generation instead?
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