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Old 09-13-2009, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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the purse strings control the Democrats had after 06 really wasn't that strong because the majority wasn't that large, filibusters in the Senate and veto power. Bush did not inherit a recession, the Bureau of Labor cites the recession you are referring to as starting in March 2001. Bush had the WORST job record of any President since the starts started being collected in the 1930's.
You will argue that the condition we are in has nothing to do with Obama and yet try to make it that Bush was responsible for a recession that started in March 2001. In office less than 2 months and he caused that recession. You are a very strong liberal in your ability to reason things like that.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If Clinton "balanced the budget," the why did the national debt go up by approximately $1 trillion dollars during his time in office?
The Republican Congress didn't get him slowed down soon enough. Yep.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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He didnt balance the budget. He signed a bill that made SS part of the general fund making it suddenly appear we were operating the county at a surplus. Once the dot com boom wound down and the SS coffers began to shrink we were back running deficits.

Besides if anyone gedts credit for keeping bubba fiscally in line its Newt Gingrich and the GOP controlled house.
It is not nice to tell THEM the real reason that Clinton seemed to be doing so good. Of course, the action of the Congress didn't do anybody any favors, especially those of us on SS and those close to it. The Congress had been spending what they considered surplus in SS money just as if it were regular taxes over 40 years before they tried to change how we viewed that money that seemed to be surplus. They made themselves look good and Clinton at the same time.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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and since a recession is defined as 2 quarters of no or negative growth...The only reason Ws numbers were so low is because liberal dupes ate the media BS like ravenous vultures. W did a fantastic job with foreign policy and the Economy. Wouldnt change a thing, despite what olbermann squeals about

Wait so the reason Bush's job numbers were the lowest any President had since the stats started to be compiled in the late 30's is due to the media??
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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If Clinton "balanced the budget," the why did the national debt go up by approximately $1 trillion dollars during his time in office?
Due to the fact that he inherited a massive deficit. The deficit wasn't going to disappear overnight, it was going to take a few years to rebuild the budget. The first few years he was in office he did have a deficit as a result of what he inherited, however the deficit decreased every year, and the last few years he was in office he had a surplus.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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Obama didn't squander your money. You did. So did I. We let it happen. You accuse Obama of not accepting his personal responsibility. Did Bush? Bush could have been great if he'd listened to reason but he was too ignorant and arrogant to heed the screaming voices of logic.

Our acquiescence to the spending last fall gave the incoming Obama administration carte blanche to continue. If we allowed it once, and didn't rise up to stop it, they will do it again and again.

We didn't burn DC to the ground after the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act (etc), so they're guessing we won't put up a fight when the rest of our meager rights are dismantled...

I just know your whole post must be a joke.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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You want to know the reason? It's because for conservative Republicans, year one in American History started in January of 1980 ... everything else up to that moment means ZERO.

Poor people ... they are history babies.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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How can conservative Republicans be so shameless in trying to rewrite history they way they are doing in blaming Obama for the economy? Do they really think Americans are that stupid? The economy crashing was one of the main reasons for Bush's unbelievably low approval rating and a major contributor to President Obama getting elected. Do they think people will forget that if they repeat their lies often enough? Don't conservatives believe it is immoral to lie? What do moderate Republicans think of conservatives when they do this?
Not only do they rewrite history, they rewrite current events.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Bush spent like a liberal.
Obama is Bush x 2
Conservatives I know readily acknowledge this fact.

Yup, this one does that's for sure.
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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How can conservative Republicans be so shameless in trying to rewrite history they way they are doing in blaming Obama for the economy? Do they really think Americans are that stupid? The economy crashing was one of the main reasons for Bush's unbelievably low approval rating and a major contributor to President Obama getting elected. Do they think people will forget that if they repeat their lies often enough? Don't conservatives believe it is immoral to lie? What do moderate Republicans think of conservatives when they do this?

Who started the Board of Education, Board of Transportation, Freddy and Fanny? Get real it started a long time ago. Were not stupid but you may be.
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