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Not quit the same.. A Democracy means majority rules, a Representative Republic means that even the minority has a voice.
A republic is a type of democracy.
The OP is too vague on the word "liberalism," but still, I can't think of a definition where the title doesn't work. Without any sort of fiscal liberalism, the government would do absolutely nothing, and would basically be meaningless. Without social liberalism, you wouldn't have freedom at all.
In your words what are the significant differences between democracy and republic?
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Originally Posted by LogicIsYourFriend
A republic is a type of democracy.
The OP is too vague on the word "liberalism," but still, I can't think of a definition where the title doesn't work. Without any sort of fiscal liberalism, the government would do absolutely nothing, and would basically be meaningless. Without social liberalism, you wouldn't have freedom at all.
The OP is too vague on the word "liberalism," but still, I can't think of a definition where the title doesn't work. Without any sort of fiscal liberalism, the government would do absolutely nothing, and would basically be meaningless. Without social liberalism, you wouldn't have freedom at all.
Our nation was actually formed using the basis that the federal government would do very little, with any and all wishes such as healthcare, gays, abortion etc, to be decided on a state by state basis..
I don't understand what you are saying. Democracy is actually what happened with Prop 8 where the majority ruled over the minority that was in favor of a minority group.
Democracy trampled on the rights of gays. My point is that democracy does not treat people equitably and is actually a very dangerous form of government, depending on who you are.
Elaborate..this country was founded on both ideas having one w/o the other will not work
Don't confuse liberalism--the founding ideal of the country--with what passes for liberalism today. The original liberals--Locke, Hobbs, Montesquieu, Rousseau--would have nothing to do with the "liberals" of today. The Founding Fathers were steeped in the ideas of Locke and co. At bottom liberalism represented the impulse of the indvidual for liberty and pitted that individual against the state--as represented by the crown. Recognizing the need for government the Founders nevertheless sought to maximize indvidual liberty by circumscribing the power of the state. Thus the federal system and separation of powers and the Bill of Rights. Today's liberals, by contrast, seek to enhance the power of the state over the individual through taxation and regulation. In the guise of helping people government amasses more and more power, turning us into wards of the state itself. In effect the liberalism of today is a form of soft tyranny. A good analogy is the soft tyranny of the parent. At some point a person has to choose between chaffing at the soft tyranny of the parental abode and the freedom that is his or her birthright as an adult. People, it's past time to be adults.
Don't confuse liberalism--the founding ideal of the country--with what passes for liberalism today. The original liberals--Locke, Hobbs, Montesquieu, Rousseau--would have nothing to do with the "liberals" of today. The Founding Fathers were steeped in the ideas of Locke and co. At bottom liberalism represented the impulse of the indvidual for liberty and pitted that individual against the state--as represented by the crown. Recognizing the need for government the Founders nevertheless sought to maximize indvidual liberty by circumscribing the power of the state. Thus the federal system and separation of powers and the Bill of Rights. Today's liberals, by contrast, seek to enhance the power of the state over the individual through taxation and regulation. In the guise of helping people government amasses more and more power, turning us into wards of the state itself. In effect the liberalism of today is a form of soft tyranny. A good analogy is the soft tyranny of the parent. At some point a person has to choose between chaffing at the soft tyranny of the parental abode and the freedom that is his or her birthright as an adult. People, it's past time to be adults.
Don't confuse liberalism--the founding ideal of the country--with what passes for liberalism today. The original liberals--Locke, Hobbs, Montesquieu, Rousseau--would have nothing to do with the "liberals" of today. The Founding Fathers were steeped in the ideas of Locke and co. At bottom liberalism represented the impulse of the indvidual for liberty and pitted that individual against the state--as represented by the crown. Recognizing the need for government the Founders nevertheless sought to maximize indvidual liberty by circumscribing the power of the state. Thus the federal system and separation of powers and the Bill of Rights. Today's liberals, by contrast, seek to enhance the power of the state over the individual through taxation and regulation. In the guise of helping people government amasses more and more power, turning us into wards of the state itself. In effect the liberalism of today is a form of soft tyranny. A good analogy is the soft tyranny of the parent. At some point a person has to choose between chaffing at the soft tyranny of the parental abode and the freedom that is his or her birthright as an adult. People, it's past time to be adults.
Well said.
I was going to ask the question which liberalism? Classic Liberalism as proposed by Locke and company or modern American progressive liberalism?
because there is a huge difference. Democracy (or our Representative Republic) will fail without the first, but just might fail because of the second.
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