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Old 05-03-2007, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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A recent Wall Street Journal article about the redistricting of the U.S. House of Representatives after the 2010 Census had a couple of maps of the USA showing those states expected to lose or gain U.S. House representatives after the redistricting of 2010. The map showed that Alabama is projected to lose one seat in the U.S. House of Representatives after 2010. This is despite the fact that population in the southern USA is growing faster than the national average and other southeastern USA states like Florida, Alabama, Virginia, and North Carolina are expected to gain House seats.

Therefore, this means that the population growth rate in Alabama is less than the national average and a lot less than the rate of most of its neighboring states. Why is this so? Why is the population growth rate of Alabama so slow, and why does it appear that Alabama is lagging behind its neighbors?

Ken Akerman
Tempe, AZ

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Old 05-03-2007, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The rate of growth in Alabama is slow because there is a minimization of certain population demographics that dont have 8 kids (note illegal aliens.) There is not people flocking to the state like in Montana or Arizona or Nevada. I would be sad for Alabama to lose a House seat but if it does I hope its a Democrat seat.

I wish the Southeast would form its own country sometimes, less nonsensical and poorly managed than some of the more northerly states. A southern country would have no road tolls, low gas taxes, reasonable housing and healthcare, low general taxes, attractive business clime, and steady but not rapid population growth. Wait it already does -- damn why are we paying taxes to the federal government. In the future, states rights will matter even more as the government becomes more and more ineffective.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Default Plains will lose

I am sure that states like Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Iowa will risk losing seats as well. Although urban areas in these states are gaining population the rural areas are declining big time
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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I am sure that states like Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Iowa will risk losing seats as well. Although urban areas in these states are gaining population the rural areas are declining big time
North & South Dakota each used to have two House members but they have each lost one so the two Dakotas have one Congressman each, and they can't go any lower.

I think I recall Iowa listed as another state that is expected to lose a House member. I am not sure about Kansas but it is likely that if they don't lose a seat in 2010 they will lose one in 2020.

Ken Akerman
Tempe, AZ
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Valley of the Sun, Arizona
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The rate of growth in Alabama is slow because there is a minimization of certain population demographics that dont have 8 kids (note illegal aliens.) There is not people flocking to the state like in Montana or Arizona or Nevada. I would be sad for Alabama to lose a House seat but if it does I hope its a Democrat seat.

I wish the Southeast would form its own country sometimes, less nonsensical and poorly managed than some of the more northerly states. A southern country would have no road tolls, low gas taxes, reasonable housing and healthcare, low general taxes, attractive business clime, and steady but not rapid population growth. Wait it already does -- damn why are we paying taxes to the federal government. In the future, states rights will matter even more as the government becomes more and more ineffective.

I wish the southwest would form its own country as well, but that's not going to happen. We all remember how the federal government acted last time some states tryed to go independant, that wasn't very pretty.
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Old 05-03-2007, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I wish the southwest would form its own country as well, but that's not going to happen. We all remember how the federal government acted last time some states tryed to go independant, that wasn't very pretty.
Yeah well theres always the Bonnie Blue Flag. Tradition lives on, just some of the better parts from it.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Renton, WA
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I wish the Southeast would form its own country sometimes, less nonsensical and poorly managed than some of the more northerly states. A southern country would have no road tolls, low gas taxes, reasonable housing and healthcare, low general taxes, attractive business clime, and steady but not rapid population growth.
That was already tried in the 1860's, but unfortunately it did not succeed. However, it is probable that things would have turned out better if that attempt to create a new country had succeeded, according to this article (broken link) or this article.

Ken Akerman
Tempe, AZ

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Old 05-04-2007, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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That was already tried in the 1860's, but unfortunately it did not succeed. However, it is probable that things would have turned out better if that attempt to create a new country had succeeded, according to this article (broken link) or this article.

Ken Akerman
Tempe, AZ
I love it I love it I love it lol.

According to Article 1:

It is highly unlikely that the Confederacy would have embraced the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness that is fast becoming the official American state ideology. So at least part of North America would still stand for Western culture, Christianity and an appreciation of the differences between ladies and gentlemen. Decency might have taken its stand in Dixie, along with some other good things such as an appreciation for the merits of rural life. Perhaps most important, Americans north and south might have a choice. If the North had turned left, as the United States has during this century, Northerners who didn't care for that development could cross the Mason Dixon line and become Southerners. That's an option more than a few of us Yankees would appreciate having, even if it did mean having to eat grits. What would my great-grandfather, Union Army sergeant Alfred G. Sturgiss, say to all of this? If he could see the sorry mess the country he fought for has become, I think he might sadly say that he'd fought for the wrong side.

Yeah Dixie is the last bastion of values and decency in America. I'm a strong supporter of state rights seeing how intrusive and socialist and badly managed some of the states are up north -- Illinois, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, New Jersey, California.

I'm all for the merits of rural life too something Democrats don't seem to understand. You'd hardly get me to live in a big city, just ain't happening. Public transportation is not a reality in rural areas thats why we need gas efficient cars, low gas taxes. Democrats feel that it is selfish to live in a rural area and wasteful -- have to use too much gas to get places, use more roads than taxes paid proportionally, rural sprawl lol. They don't support agriculture in the USA something which has been a very important part of our economy since day 1. I don't mind spending a few cents more for American cotton, corn, and wheat.
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:03 AM
 
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If you read the posts above it is easy to know why they are losing a seat and population growth is slow in Alabama. They are to busy still wishing the Confederate war succeeded instead of moving on and realizing the war is over.

Alabama will probably be a great place when all the OLD hypocrites are gone and the youth of today take over.. When they realize bible thumping daily and spewing the venom of hatred for everyone that does not agree with them immediately after church is not the Christian way

One day they may realize it is not the democrats that are the problem but it is the Politicians and Lawyers that is the problem. A poor Republican is in the same boat as a poor republican and being used by the politicians the exact same. One day they may hear the lies of both DEM and REP and recognize them for what they are LIES no matter whose mouth the lie came out of.

I have been to AL a few times and think it is a great place to live and most of the people I met are great people, it is just a few hypocrites that ruin it for all. It just so happens they are in power so they can ruin it for many. But to be sure one day the youth will take over and they will be able to think for thme self. They will not condemn a man because they disagree. They will respect that disagreement and know this is what has made America so strong.
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:09 PM
 
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Alabama and the South were cheaper than the North because they weren't the heavily populated industrial centers. Couple that with the Southern wisdom of not wanting to pay for anything and there you go...

Fortunately for the South, most Southern states get more from the Federal government than they give. Most Southern states get a $1+ for every dollar they put in (the average ends up being less than a dollar in and more than a dollar out.)

Birmingham could have been Atlanta. In the 1940's, both regions had very similar metro populations (around 800,000). However Birmingham and the state kept shooting themselves in the foot in the following decades, proudly defying any progress. Apparently that attitude is alive and well today.
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