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Old 09-23-2009, 01:39 AM
 
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Texas Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison introduced the amendment to an appropriations bill. It would prevent the FCC from getting funding for any initiative to uphold Net neutrality. According to The Hill, the co-sponsors are Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) Sen. John Ensign (R-NV), Sen. John Thune (R-SD) and Sen. David Vitter (R-LA).
See link below for full story.

The Raw Story » GOP senators declare war on Net neutrality (http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/gop-senators-net-neutrality/ - broken link)
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:02 AM
 
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What's wrong with freedom of speech?
Isn't that the first amendment, or is the second amendment the only one they care about?
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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What's wrong with freedom of speech?
Isn't that the first amendment, or is the second amendment the only one they care about?

Has more to do with disincentivising solutions to ever increasing demand by larger applications and hardware utilizing a limited medium.

K. A. Taipale: Is Net Neutrality Bad for National Preparedness? CAS Research Brief 06-14 (Jun 2006)
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Ugh,

When will Republicans quit trying to censor the world. We don't all want to follow the rules in the Bible.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:25 AM
 
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Default By all that's holy, keep net neutrality.

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Has more to do with disincentivising solutions to ever increasing demand by larger applications and hardware utilizing a limited medium.

K. A. Taipale: Is Net Neutrality Bad for National Preparedness? CAS Research Brief 06-14 (Jun 2006)
Wow - "National Preparedness", that's a new angle. So supporting Net Neutrality means helping the terrorists, now.

Maintaining Net Neutrality (yes, maintaining - it's codifying the status quo) makes the Internet marketplace easy to enter. Doing away with it would allow the carriers to prioritize traffic between different content providers, and that would make a lovely cash cow. Innovation, of course, would lose out big. Fledgling upstarts would not be able to purchase preferred status and their traffic would suffer.

Any true free-market conservative should be in favor of maintaining Net Neutrality. Easy entry and competition purely on the merits of your service? Adam Smith would love it.

Of course, if you think Cable TV is a good business model for the consumer("Oh, do you want to use Skype? They're not in your current package, but we can add them for $4.95/month, subject to change"), by all means, dismantle Net Neutrality.


ISPs de facto have localized monopolies - they need to operate under Common Carrier rules.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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What's wrong with freedom of speech?
Isn't that the first amendment, or is the second amendment the only one they care about?
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Ugh,

When will Republicans quit trying to censor the world. We don't all want to follow the rules in the Bible.

What about child porn? Isn't that something you would want to eliminate?
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:47 AM
 
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ISPs de facto have localized monopolies - they need to operate under Common Carrier rules.
Exactly and the only reason I support this. The service of connecting you to the internet needs to be separated from the content they provide. What I wouldn't support is if they start messing with how the ISP's structure their billing and limits. The only way this will work is through a tiered service where the burden of the cost to provide the service is paid solely by the consumer, you can expect "unlimited" access to go the way of the dodo bird and you'll be paying a set rate for the bandwidth you use.

I'd also strongly object to any language that would dictate what the content providers can or cannot do. If this bill has any language in it that even remotely resembles that of the Fairness Doctrine it has to be removed.

This is very complicated issue and not quite as cut and dried as either side would suggest.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: California
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Freedom of speech is great and all, but society needs to censor and / or police itself in order for it to work without interference. And we don't do that very well.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Has more to do with disincentivising solutions to ever increasing demand by larger applications and hardware utilizing a limited medium.
We did the AOL thing, it sucked.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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What about child porn? Isn't that something you would want to eliminate?
There are already laws prohibiting child pornography.
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