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"The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 -- and still goes on.
Source: President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended, White House (5/1/2003).
Bush never connected 9/11 with Iraq?? Yet there are his OWN words! Talk about being in "denial"!
IF it were proven that Bush, et al, falsified the Intelligence used to justify the Invasion of Iraq, they would be guilty of Waging Aggressive Warfare, under the Nuremberg Doctrine. The crime for which most of the Top Nazis were hung.
IF it were proven that Bush, et al, falsified the Intelligence used to justify the Invasion of Iraq, they would be guilty of Waging Aggressive Warfare, under the Nuremberg Doctrine. The crime for which most of the Top Nazis were hung.
It will all come out in time. Much of it has already. Most Americans know that the Bush Adm deliberately led the US into a war of convenience. A war of choice. That is why W's job approvals tanked after the 2004 election. Americans finally realized they were misled if not "lied" to. Iraq was one of the main reasons Republicans themselves knew that 2008 would likely be a blood bath for Republicans. The economy tanking was just the final nail in the coffin.
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Reason: correct spelling
Strangely enough none of those people suggested we "preemptively" invade Iraq or that Iraq played some role in 9/11! That was W. Bush abandoned diplomacy to force his "doctrine" on the US. Are you a Sarah Palin fan who does not know what the Bush doctrine is?
Let's deal with reality for a second. 9/11 didn't happen until 2001. What would have happened if 9/11 had happened under Clinton's watch, given the same intel and the obvious, I repeat OBVIOUS concession that Saddam had WMD's and supported Al Queda training camps in his country? Well, we will never know, so that FACT that it happened under GWB's watch is a moot point. But:
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The Arabic language daily newspaper Al-Quds al-Arabi first raised the issue of cooperation between Iraq, Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in a late December 1998 editorial, which predicted that “President Saddam Hussein, whose country was subjected to a four day air strike, will look for support in taking revenge on the United States and Britain by cooperating with Saudi oppositionist Osama bin-Laden, whom the United States considers to be the most wanted person in the world.” The editorial noted that this type of cooperation was very likely considering that “bin-Laden was planning moving to Iraq before the recent strike.”
]But lets overlook the training camps in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak?
Clinton did NOTHING concerning Osama Bin Laden when he had his head on a platter. The man did NOTHING about any terrorist attacks that happened under his watch. He even went so far as to mandate that no heads of state could be "taken out". He just kept playing his sax for Hollyweird and ducking Monica under his desk...and never had to answer for all those people who came up dead at the end of his last term that knew about Whitewater.
What is mustard gas to you?
Sarin gas?
Warheads fit for deploying the above?
What killed the Kurds? Explain THAT.
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IF it were proven that Bush, et al, falsified the Intelligence used to justify the Invasion of Iraq, they would be guilty of Waging Aggressive Warfare, under the Nuremberg Doctrine. The crime for which most of the Top Nazis were hung.
And the long line of falsifying intel would begin where?
Let's deal with reality for a second. 9/11 didn't happen until 2001. What would have happened if 9/11 had happened under Clinton's watch, given the same intel and the obvious, I repeat OBVIOUS concession that Saddam had WMD's and supported Al Queda training camps in hi country? Well, we will never know, so that FACT that it happened under GWB's watch is a moot point. But:
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No luck finding that Bush quote warning of terrorism prior to 9/11?
Clinton did NOTHING concerning Osama Bin Laden when he had his head on a platter. The man did NOTHING about any terrorist attacks that happened under his watch. He even went so far as to mandate that no heads of state could be "taken out". He just kept playing his sax for Hollyweird and ducking Monica under his desk...and never had to answer for all those people who came up dead at the end of his last term that knew about Whitewater.
What is mustard gas to you?
Sarin gas?
Warheads fit for deploying the above?
What killed the Kurds? Explain THAT.
When Bill Clinton sent cruise missles after Bin Laden, the right whined he "wagged the dog". That one act was more than Bush did about terrorism prior to 9/11. It's probably also worth pointing out that the USS Cole bombing happened 3 months to W taking office. Bush decided to keep the Clinton position on the Cole. In hindsight I guess that makes you all look foolish.
No luck on finding that Bush quote prior to 9/11 where W warns of terrorism??? LOL it doesn't exist...so please continue your rant about Bill Clinton who actually warned of the threat!
Let's deal with reality for a second. 9/11 didn't happen until 2001. What would have happened if 9/11 had happened under Clinton's watch, given the same intel and the obvious, I repeat OBVIOUS concession that Saddam had WMD's and supported Al Queda training camps in hi country? Well, we will never know, so that FACT that it happened under GWB's watch is a moot point. But:
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[SIZE=2][/SIZE]But lets overlook the training camps in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak?
Clinton did NOTHING concerning Osama Bin Laden when he had his head on a platter. The man did NOTHING about any terrorist attacks that happened under his watch. He even went so far as to mandate that no heads of state could be "taken out". He just kept playing his sax for Hollyweird and ducking Monica under his desk...and never had to answer for all those people who came up dead at the end of his last term that knew about Whitewater.
What is mustard gas to you?
Sarin gas?
Warheads fit for deploying the above?
What killed the Kurds? Explain THAT.
Bush, in his last press conference as POTUS, admitted that no WMD's in Iraq was "one" of his mistakes.
He said that "not finding weapons of mass destruction was a significant disappointment." The accusation that Saddam had and was pursuing weapons of mass destruction was Bush's main initial justification for going to war.
So W himself admits after many months of looking no wmds in Iraq.
Hans Blix, the lead weapons inspector, advised the UN Security Councilthat Iraq was cooperating with inspections and that the confirmation of disarmament through inspections could be achieved within "months" if Iraq remained cooperative. Nevertheless, the US government announced that "diplomacy has failed", abruptly advised the UN weapons inspectors to immediately pull out of Iraq and decided to wage war on Iraq.
Yet Iraq kicked the inspectors out. So mixed up Blix formed his opinion based on what?
Iraq was ordered to SHOW PROOF of the destruction of it's WMD's. Iraq did not. .
WHY was Iraq ordered to show proof of the destruction of it's WMD's? BECAUSE, hold on to your seat, Cowboy, Iraq admitted to having the WMD's at the end of the 1st Gulf War.
Yet Iraq kicked the inspectors out. So mixed up Blix formed his opinion based on what?
Iraq was ordered to SHOW PROOF of the destruction of it's WMD's. Iraq did not. .
WHY was Iraq ordered to show proof of the destruction of it's WMD's? BECAUSE, hold on to your seat, Cowboy, Iraq admitted to having the WMD's at the end of the 1st Gulf War.
We of course have since learned that Iraq also destroyed all it's wmds after the first Gulf War. That is why we did not find any when we broke international law and "preemptively" invaded Iraq.
Bush, in his last press conference as POTUS, admitted that no WMD's in Iraq was "one" of his mistakes.
He said that "not finding weapons of mass destruction was a significant disappointment." The accusation that Saddam had and was pursuing weapons of mass destruction was Bush's main initial justification for going to war.
So W himself admits after many months of looking no wmds in Iraq.
WMDs? Who cares. As pointed out above, laughing gas did not kill thousands of Kurds.
The real reason for the invasion of Iraq was to secure Kuwait, Iraq, and Saudi Arabian supplies of oil through the Persian Gulf. I, for one, like my home heated and like to drive my car. I know that all liberals ride bikes and have no home heating or air conditioning, so they do not have to worry if the nation has no energy supply.
Saddam had to die sometime. Given the rise of Islamic extremism, do you think for one second that the Iranians would not have aided to install a Shiite theocracy in Iraq? Wake up.
WMDs? Who cares. As pointed out above, laughing gas did not kill thousands of Kurds.
The real reason for the invasion of Iraq was to secure Kuwait, Iraq, and Saudi Arabian supplies of oil through the Persian Gulf. I, for one, like my home heated and like to drive my car. I know that all liberals ride bikes and have no home heating or air conditioning, so they do not have to worry if the nation has no energy supply.
Saddam had to die sometime. Given the rise of Islamic extremism, do you think for one second that the Iranians would not have aided to install a Shiite theocracy in Iraq? Wake up.
WMD's who cares? Probably the 4000+ American soldiers families who have lost their family member(s) in a dishonorable war based on lies? WMD's were the STATED reason why we went to Iraq. In case you have forgotten! When people said Iraq was about the oil, which I agree with, they said it was NOT about the oil. Bush ADM foremost among them. It was about a" imminent threat to our country". Do you honestly think Americans would have initially supported Iraq war if they thought it was about OIL? To add insult to injury, Bush also used 9/11 to justify his invasion and plans to secure the oil.
Then of course there are the hundreds of thousands of newly orphaned children in Iraq which make up HALF of Iraq's juvenile population. CONSERVATIVE estimates put Iraqi's civil population death toll at around 80k, with some estimates going as high as 1,000,000. Yet WMD's don't matter now that none have been found! What about all the "innocent babies"? OMG
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