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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who will have wide control over reconciling two versions of health care legislation
in the Senate, told local constituents on Thursday that the final bill will include a public option for insurance coverage.
The remarks, first reported by the Las Vegas Review-Journal are destined to bring a wide smile to the faces of progressives
who view the melding of health care legislation by leadership in the Senate -- and the subsequent melding between the
Senate and the House versions -- as the best chance of ensuring the public
So what happens when the CBO comes back and properly examines the actual costs?
Obama will be backed into a corner (to paraphrase Obama, "I will not raise taxes on singles making less than $200K and families less than $250"
Seems like when the budget eventually comes out, Obama's going to suffer the same fate as Bush 41 (No new taxes)
Look, I am sorta of for the Public Option. However, they are estimating 20-50 million people will sign up for this public option. What happens when employers figure out it's actually better just to pay the penalty by not giving their employees healthcare.
So that original 20-50 million on the pubic plan will balloon up to 100 million. How are we going to pay for this? We all the know the government isn't very good at budgeting. If they can barely figure out a way to subsidize healthcare for 50 million, what are they going to do if 100 million people want the public option?
Dems only need 51 votes to ram this through. Four of the 5 Committees have Public Option included so... Not quite sure you have a leg to stand on?
Study up Duke. 51 votes if they opt to "go nuclear." Do you fully understand the ramifications of circumventing the Democratic process? Yeah....Americans will be happy about that....so happy that Republicans will gain seats in the Senate in 2010/2012. Surely, you understand that Democrats are not fully comfortable with walking the plank for Obama, right? Presidents come and go, but Congressional seats have a high price tag, and they don't just go around giving them up for nothing. Think about it.
Study up Duke. 51 votes if they opt to "go nuclear." Do you fully understand the ramifications of circumventing the Democratic process? Yeah....Americans will be happy about that....so happy that Republicans will gain seats in the Senate in 2010/2012. Surely, you understand that Democrats are not fully comfortable with walking the plank for Obama, right? Presidents come and go, but Congressional seats have a high price tag, and they don't just go around giving them up for nothing. Think about it.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who will have wide control over reconciling two versions of health care legislation
in the Senate, told local constituents on Thursday that the final bill will include a public option for insurance coverage.
The remarks, first reported by the Las Vegas Review-Journal are destined to bring a wide smile to the faces of progressives
who view the melding of health care legislation by leadership in the Senate -- and the subsequent melding between the
Senate and the House versions -- as the best chance of ensuring the public
Study up Duke. 51 votes if they opt to "go nuclear." Do you fully understand the ramifications of circumventing the Democratic process? Yeah....Americans will be happy about that....so happy that Republicans will gain seats in the Senate in 2010/2012. Surely, you understand that Democrats are not fully comfortable with walking the plank for Obama, right? Presidents come and go, but Congressional seats have a high price tag, and they don't just go around giving them up for nothing. Think about it.
Get real Aero, like the Repugs have never ever gone nuclear, cry me a river... Maybe you ought to a little studying up on the matter yourself? You act like the GOP is oblivious to the reconciliation process?
Battle Brewing Over Reconciliation, Which Is Anything but That
But there are a couple of problems for Republicans as they push back furiously against the idea,
chief of which is the fact that they used the process themselves on several occasions,
notably when enacting more than $1 trillion in tax cuts in 2001.
That means critics can have a field day lampooning Republicans and asking them — as
Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent, did repeatedly the other day — why reconciliation
was such a good idea when it came to giving tax cuts to millionaires but such a bad one when it
comes to trying to provide health care to average Americans.
Face the music and I am sure once it is enacted the conservatives will finally see the light. Like most conservatives that whine about social programs such as medicare/medicaid, social security but are the ones who don't turn it down...
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Get real Aero, like the Repugs have never ever gone nuclear, cry me a river... Maybe you ought to a little studying up on the matter yourself? You act like the GOP is oblivious to the reconciliation process?
Battle Brewing Over Reconciliation, Which Is Anything but That
But there are a couple of problems for Republicans as they push back furiously against the idea,
chief of which is the fact that they used the process themselves on several occasions,
notably when enacting more than $1 trillion in tax cuts in 2001.
That means critics can have a field day lampooning Republicans and asking them — as
Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent, did repeatedly the other day — why reconciliation
was such a good idea when it came to giving tax cuts to millionaires but such a bad one when it
comes to trying to provide health care to average Americans.
Face the music and I am sure once it is enacted the conservatives will finally see the light. Like most conservatives that whine about social programs such as medicare/medicaid, social security but are the ones who don't turn it down...
The difference between using reconciliation for passing the 2001 tax cuts and for passing healthcare reform is that IT WAS A TAX CUT vs. a TAX INCREASE. (Don't kid yourself Duke. Higher taxes are coming to pay for it.) Most American's are happy with their healthcare insurance, therefore circumventing the Democratic process AND asking American's to pay for the other persons healthcare via the public option is a formula for disaster for Democrats. Just because Republicans have used reconciliation in the past doesn't mean that Democrats are given the green light to use it without consequence.
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